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To: MtnClimber

Countries that make deals with the devil will pay a dear price.


2 posted on 03/19/2020 4:12:25 PM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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Just like the United States?


3 posted on 03/19/2020 4:18:27 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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China the new colonial master.

I wonder how much in bribes China paid those that made the decision to do business with China.

I wonder how much in bribes our own elected officials have taken from China.

I wonder how much in bribes our news media and entertainment industry have taken to support Chinese policies?


4 posted on 03/19/2020 4:18:39 PM PDT by CIB-173RDABN (I am not an expert in anything, and my opinion is just that, an opinion. I may be wrong.)
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All of this was not necessary Italy’s own doing. The NY Times, surprisingly had an article about how the Chinese came to dominate the Italian shoe and clothing mfg industry. Up until the 1990s Italy had hundreds of small business family owned shoe and clothing manufacturers that employed 50 to 100 local Italians. The Chinese suppliers use to send buyers to the Shoes in Milan and Turin and all they did was take pictures. Within 5 years, Chinese state backed businesses were mfg Italian style cloths and shoes. The German Retail industry starting buying Italian style made cloths and shoes from China and eventually all of the Local Italian businesses closed up.

What happens next under EU directives is Chinese Industry went in and bought up all the idle Italian factories. Then the Chinese Managers of those plants started arguing the local Italians don’t respond to the Chinese business model and what happens next, the EU trade agreements with China allow Chinese Firms to sponsor Chinese nationals to come work in Italy. Germany and Ms. Merkel along with Macron of France support these initiatives. Some Italian politicians who are pro EU do as well. Well today you have 100K of them in Northern Italy. However, early on in Italy there were warning signs about this with the rise of Conservative parties criticizing the EU as nothing other than a free market for German and French industry to dominate Europe. the UK, which is not connected to continental Europe was also at a disadvantage and of course the migrant crisis and other issues caused Brexit.

This issue along with the EU, DAVOS, UN Global economic model of no borders and migrants moving from point A to point B is large in part the cause for the rise of parties like Giorgia Meloni’s Fratelli Di Italia and Salvini’s parties, both which want to retain control of Italian internal affairs and not be dictated from Germany, France and EU bureaucrats in Brussels.

I watch lots of Italian media and you tube vidoes and their is a growing movement for Italexit similar to Brexit on the one hand or some who want serious reforms to the EU and move it back to a purely trade agreement zone without all the other stuff that it has morphed into.


6 posted on 03/19/2020 4:23:16 PM PDT by CTrent1564
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I was going to comment with the same observation. re: making deals with the Devil.


7 posted on 03/19/2020 4:28:40 PM PDT by ocrp1982 (ll)
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Countries that make deals with the devil will pay a dear price.

Well, in this case the Italians were making deals with the DIRTY. The Italians hire a TON of Chinese because their labor was cheap, cheap, cheap.

The virus started in China so to get 4,700 MILES away there had to be a carrier...and their cheap, Chinese labor brought it in.

9 posted on 03/19/2020 4:30:25 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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