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To: Mariner
Something just hit me as I was hearing the "news" tell me that this is our "WWII" based on DATA MODELS, etc. This whole panic and response is supposedly "science and data" based. I find it interesting how something that is supposedly not biased seems to me to be faulting on the ALARM side of things. Isn't that about the same thing we hear regarding "climate change"? That we have to shut things down and do things different based on the "science and data"?

I am concerned that we are way overdoing our response at this point. I think a more sensible way forward would be to ask our older population to impose upon themselves restrictive social distancing and wait out the pandemic while the vaccine is developed.

104 posted on 03/16/2020 11:00:31 AM PDT by Religion and Politics (It is time for more than one denomination of "Political Correctness".)
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To: Religion and Politics

And others think a “more sensible way forward” is to let the virus run its course through the population without any mitigation or quarantine, anywhere.

Nobody is going to listen to them either, so you are not alone.


109 posted on 03/16/2020 11:07:06 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Religion and Politics

The “protect the old folks” approach sounds appealing, but unfortunately it will not work for this particular virus.

While old people are more likely to die from the virus, everyone is at risk for infection and possible hospitalization at close to the same rate.

Ref: https://www.zerohedge.com/health/not-just-seniors-french-doctors-report-50-icu-patients-under-60-years-old-netherlands-under

As a result, under your proposal health care facilities throughout the country would be quickly overwhelmed with critically ill patients. This would put all of them at risk as well as anyone else who needed health care.

That would create many more deaths than those caused directly by the corona virus.


123 posted on 03/16/2020 11:13:49 AM PDT by cgbg (No half measures.)
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To: Religion and Politics

Big difference here. In the case of epidemiology, we have lots of recent and direct data / events to study. Yes, you’ll get some incomplete explanations (what happens with measures to limit spread not included, but those are really just arguments to limit spread.)

In the case of climate change, we have NO good instance of human style inputs to the system to study. The closest I know of is the “PETM”, and that was some 55 million years ago, and very hotly debated (as to cause) by AGW types.


150 posted on 03/16/2020 11:29:26 AM PDT by Paul R. (The Lib / Socialist goal: Total control of nothing left wort h controlling.)
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