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To: Pearls Before Swine

[This seems very odd and unusual to me.

I can understand a brave wartime move, but this sounds more like a “you broke it, you fix it” kind of deal.

After all, if the Chinese are going full tilt on vaccine development, as is everyone else, why would they skip at least minimal animal trials? Especially, when they claim that the virus is under control, new cases are dropping, and society is returning back to normal.

Under those circumstances, why would a top military scientist feel compelled to take a potentially very risky step? She would appear to have a lot of value as a continuing live researcher.]


Testing new things on yourself has a long and storied history among research scientist. In the case described here, however, I’d be surprised if it actually happened. Figuring out a way to tell tall tales for personal glory is probably why language was developed in the first place.


9 posted on 03/13/2020 5:43:03 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: Zhang Fei
Figuring out a way to tell tall tales for personal glory is probably why language was developed in the first place.

"You Jane.... and me...Tarzan!"

Sure, it could just be "selfless brilliant scientist offers herself for first trial" propaganda.

11 posted on 03/13/2020 5:45:08 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Zhang Fei

Probably because they already had a headstart on the
vaccine. Maybe she was the one named responsible and
had to take the bullet.


17 posted on 03/13/2020 5:53:24 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Zhang Fei

“Testing new things on yourself has a long and storied history among research scientists.”

“The term cardiac catheterization was coined in 1844 by French physiologist Claude Bernard, who inserted a glass catheter into the heart of a horse. The procedure was first performed in a human by German physician Werner Forssmann, who in 1929 opened a vein in his own arm, inserted a urethral catheter about 3.2 mm (0.125 inch) in diameter and 76 cm (2.5 feet) long, and passed it to the right side of his heart while photographing his accomplishment with an X-ray machine. In the United States, physiologists André Cournand and Dickinson Richards developed clinical applications of Forssmann’s technique, and in 1956 the three shared a Nobel Prize for their achievements.”

Many personal experiments by researchers the world over.


29 posted on 03/13/2020 6:24:53 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT
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