If you only knew how much funding these departments get, you’d see the point.
Not a broad brush at all.
It was bad 20 years ago. It isn’t better now.
The Chicoms pay full freight as students, grad students too. And it isn’t just that.
Do read the info on ‘ten thousand talents program’. That’s not the only one btw.
The confucius institutes for example.
Oh I don't doubt that there are schools that get big $ from PRC.
Thank goodness they didn't bother with my two schools! LOL
NY
Two diagnosed with COVID-19 visited Clifton Park gym
VENT Fitness informed members at the occurrence
Kassie Parisi
| March 10, 2020
...In the email sent to members, VENT Fitness management confirmed that the two people, who were diagnosed on March 7, one a 57-year-old pharmacist and one is a 52-year old woman, were both at the gym on March 5.
The email continued to say that the Saratoga Department of Health contacted VENT Fitness on March 9 to inform the gym of a potential exposure at the Clifton Park location. Saratoga County DOH, continued the email, “determined a group that attended a specific class were most at risk and are contacting this group of individuals directly to determine next steps.”
https://dailygazette.com/article/2020/03/10/two-diagnosed-with-covid-19-visited-clifton-park-gym
I second Agnes’ point.
It doesn’t have to be direct Chinese money to American researchers, just the fact that Chinese students pay the full freight tuition is enough for American schools to be very deferential to the ChiComs.
Specific numbers for several(!) “top” schools, please, laying out all significant grant funding sources, and the sources of the information.
As this article points out, Chinese students are a significant source of revenue for US Universities. No question about it:
HOWEVER, tuition and fees are NOT the main source of US university research monies. Those $$ come mainly from government and business grants. I’ll add China, if you can document actual similar $$ amounts for China as requested above.
For some perspective, look at, say, Purdue U., at the link above, which has one of the higher % of Chinese students. For 2014, assuming all those students paid full tuition & fees ($28,804), Purdue pulled in ~$140 million from them. (I had to estimate for the grad students). Purdue’s overall budget in 2014 was ~2.4 BILLION dollars. In-state tuition & fees were $5001. Might as well say the Chinese students were subsidizing in-state students. Or paying for utilities & maintenance.
2014-15 Purdue budget:
https://www.purdue.edu/business/budgetfp/pdf/2014-15BOT%20Report.pdf
The “Talents” program (and similar) are a different problem. The participating profs can benefit greatly but the US Universities not as much. The links you provided clearly describe the problem. But what % of profs participate? Again, solid numbers, please. The article you cited says these programs sucked in “over 10k” “scientists”. But we have over 6.9 MILLION scientists and engineers in the US. We have something over 500k professors. Lacking specific info. on any individual, any one individual scientist or prof. is NOT likely being funded by the ChiComs.
https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R43061.pdf
and
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Professors_in_the_United_States
FWIW, yes, I’m a STEM grad & practitioner with many friends of all ages in the field, and my Dad was a Prof. and lifelong researcher in AG Science related fields: I knew some (and still know a few) of his cohorts. None I know of ever got any Chinese money. A really cute Chinese girl did smile at me at a trade show once, tho’. ;-)