Posted on 03/10/2020 5:22:41 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
Continuation of the thread.
Please use this thread to consolidate the discussion and stories.
Spring break....
Only works if you seal your borders. Something GA can’t do. But something is better than nothing or swimming in circles as most guberment types are doing.
I know the daily thread started back as far as Jan 24th, maybe earlier and several links are missing from your list.
It would be an interesting exercise to go back and look at those early predictions, some of which are coming true.
We will be seeing a lot of “impossible things” in the next few weeks... ;-)
SOUTH KOREA
How A South Korean City Is Changing Tactics To Tamp Down Its COVID-19 Surge
As the virus spread in the early days of the outbreak, a slow trickle of patients entered Daegu’s hospitals, which were equipped to handle it, Lee says. “Daegu city’s policy, at first, was to put every patient in a negative pressure room, regardless of the severity of their symptoms,” he says. Negative pressure rooms isolate infected patients by preventing contaminated air from escaping the room.
The trickle soon turned into a deluge of hundreds of patients, and by Feb. 23, when the increase in new cases in Daegu exceeded 100 per day, the city’s hospitals became clogged with patients with mild symptoms. As of Friday, some 1,800 of Daegu’s coronavirus patients were at home awaiting hospital beds. Two of them died waiting.
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Kim Hyeonggab, president of the Korean Association of Public Health Doctors and a medical volunteer in Daegu, says he’s seeing a shift in tactics from health authorities from trying to contain and trace the virus to trying to mitigate its impact and prevent deaths. This has been done nationwide and involves a range of actions, from canceling schools to calling off K-pop concerts.
“Since last Saturday, I’ve seen government efforts shift to securing more hospital beds and building a triaging system,” says Kim — prioritizing patients with severe symptoms at health facilities.
https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/03/10/812865169/how-a-south-korean-city-is-changing-tactics-to-tamp-down-its-covid-19-surge
Agree. Even Congress knows if this is a nothing burger or a major threat. Remember they had a classified briefing and interestingly enough I don’t recall there being any leaks. Out of the norm for today’s politicians.
We did the mower parts thing the beginning of Feb.
Hubby and I basically started a list and brainstormed what we might need this summer/fall, partswise, of stuff we REALLY needed to be using. Mower, weed eater, cars, etc
Hopefully the supply chains will be up and functioning soon, but there will definitely be a ‘burp’ in the system.
Including those that test negative in some cases and those who are tested and truly negative but for only a couple of days before infected.
I am not sure when Janet and Jane started these. I took over one day when they couldn’t do it. And here I am.
1) It mutates into a form no more dangerous than ordinary flu. This is how the 1918 Spanish Flu ended around a year after its first major spread across America. That is less likely for CoVid-19 because it seems less virulent, and is much less lethal, than the 1918 Flu, though a mutation ending will still happen eventually, just not so soon.
2) A successful treatment is found. See:
https://www.nejm.org/doi/10.1056/NEJMoa2001191
and
https://www.en.etemaaddaily.com/world/international/china-starts-clinical-trial-for-remdesivir-medicine-in-coronavirus-treatment:70811
for an example of possible success and an ongoing clinical trial. The successful use of remdesivir occured in January and the Chinese clinical trial began a few weeks ago. We might have results from the clinical trial by July or so. If it is successful, it will take months more to get enough production going to make more than a minor difference in treatment, i.e., mass use of remdesivir, if it works, probably won’t happen any earlier than December of this year. And some other successful treatment might come along but will be subject to the same delays in use.
3) A successful vaccine is found and deployed en masse. The generally agreed period for this is 18-30 months for development of a vaccine and another six months to produce hundreds of millions of doses and deliver them to the public.
Rated by how quickly the pandemic might end, it's successful treatment first, then mutation and finally a vaccine.
"Here's the Q. If you don't build immunity (do you?) and it doesn't peter out--does it just keep violently circulating and you keep catching it until you can no longer put up a good fight?Unless someone has the antidote, this seems like a really counterproductive bio-weapon. Whoever created this needs to be put up against the wall."
Cali will fold and prosecute price gougers. Been there done that.
SINGAPORE
Many local COVID-19 cases due to ‘socially irresponsible’ behaviour of a few: Health Minister
By Ian Cheng
By Ang Hwee Min
10 Mar 2020 07:04PM
(Updated: 10 Mar 2020 07:14PM)
SINGAPORE: Many locally transmitted COVID-19 cases in Singapore “were the result of the socially irresponsible actions of a few individuals” who continued to attend events and activities despite being unwell, said Health Minister Gan Kim Yong on Tuesday (Mar 10).
To curb the spread of the coronavirus in Singapore, members of the public should avoid social contact and see a doctor early if unwell, Mr Gan said at a press conference.
About 35 out of the 160 confirmed cases in Singapore so far did not minimise social contact although they had already developed fever or respiratory symptoms, or had not consulted a doctor early when unwell.
Great post!
Pinging Null and Void and Lucy T to read this.
Absolute madness.
When leaders do nothing in a crisis, people start to accept any action as a good thing.
It is time for the Administration to take this seriously and quit their dismissive attitude.
As bad as the epidemic may turn out, the wrong cure could be even more dangerous.
Great job—really appreciated.
I was laughing this morning when I saw FR had a _bunch_ of other CV threads, so the original intent of consolidating CV topics is not working real well...
Kinda reminds me of a voluntary quarantine. ;-)
Lookner live
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmL4F9FUByA
My blood pressure can take him anymore, lol
Trump, Pence and Pelosi should be tested daily.
It sure seems that way in the United States. First don't test so nobody knows whether it's here or not. Begin testing later and then claim that we fought it effectively but now it's here. Then highlight how many people die of the flu every year. Then say it's low risk for everyone but old and sick people. Bring up flu deaths again. Then say "Well, we fought the good fight. It's here now."
Another aspect was maybe delaying and stalling as much as possible in the hope that it will be seasonal and that warmer weather will help to control it and then claim victory until after the election after it kicks in again if it is seasonal and becomes more widespread than before.
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