Posted on 03/10/2020 5:22:41 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
Continuation of the thread.
Please use this thread to consolidate the discussion and stories.
Some of us have wondered if there are plans to use the dorms for sick wards.
Also, Seattle was one of the states designated a month agp by the CDC to do testing. So they were part of the initial rollout. They had to pause while the third reagent was being worked out, but could have already had a lot of tests ready to deploy.
“Dr. Nancy Messonnier, the director of the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases, told reporters that the CDC will be working alongside public health laboratories in Los Angeles, San Francisco, Seattle, Chicago and New York City to begin testing for COVID-19.”
No sugar. That's what I drink, and I can still drink it when I am on a keto diet.
But, as a state, they had full authority to do whatever they wanted anyway.
At their own expense though.
Sounds like concentration camp, hope this was voluntary
Yes, voluntary. They want people to be able to get better at home, but need an intermediate setup for those too sick to be at home, but not too sick to need a hospital bed. It’s a state park with RVs, lol. Ps, this is GA, with a very conservative gov.
Specific numbers for several(!) “top” schools, please, laying out all significant grant funding sources, and the sources of the information.
As this article points out, Chinese students are a significant source of revenue for US Universities. No question about it:
HOWEVER, tuition and fees are NOT the main source of US university research monies. Those $$ come mainly from government and business grants. I’ll add China, if you can document actual similar $$ amounts for China as requested above.
For some perspective, look at, say, Purdue U., at the link above, which has one of the higher % of Chinese students. For 2014, assuming all those students paid full tuition & fees ($28,804), Purdue pulled in ~$140 million from them. (I had to estimate for the grad students). Purdue’s overall budget in 2014 was ~2.4 BILLION dollars. In-state tuition & fees were $5001. Might as well say the Chinese students were subsidizing in-state students. Or paying for utilities & maintenance.
2014-15 Purdue budget:
https://www.purdue.edu/business/budgetfp/pdf/2014-15BOT%20Report.pdf
The “Talents” program (and similar) are a different problem. The participating profs can benefit greatly but the US Universities not as much. The links you provided clearly describe the problem. But what % of profs participate? Again, solid numbers, please. The article you cited says these programs sucked in “over 10k” “scientists”. But we have over 6.9 MILLION scientists and engineers in the US. We have something over 500k professors. Lacking specific info. on any individual, any one individual scientist or prof. is NOT likely being funded by the ChiComs.
https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R43061.pdf
and
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Professors_in_the_United_States
FWIW, yes, I’m a STEM grad & practitioner with many friends of all ages in the field, and my Dad was a Prof. and lifelong researcher in AG Science related fields: I knew some (and still know a few) of his cohorts. None I know of ever got any Chinese money. A really cute Chinese girl did smile at me at a trade show once, tho’. ;-)
In all these threads, and I’ve read them all; I don’t know why coronavirus attracted my attention so -
It is easy to forget that about thirty people have died in the US so far.
It’s thirty too many. And I know it will go up.
But we lose about 90 per day in car crashes. This puts things in perspective for me. I am not angry at Trump. We need a measured response. The damage done by the reaction to this virus has been too extreme. I do believe that high risk folks should take extra precautions and that the health care system should prepare.
But shutting down life as we know it is very harmful to us all. If we started to lose say 180 per day, twice as many as car crashes? I’d expect the heavier response that many here are advocating.
Yes I know we want to act not react. But I am seeing FReepers saying institute martial law, close all campuses, forbid gatherings, bug out and don’t return for months, they are quitting jobs or essentially daring employers to fire them, cancel rallies, ban travel, force quarantine of healthy people ... I can’t support it.
It’s not for the students. Lots of them will get sick and spread it among themselves, and for many it will be so mild they would just go to class. It’s for the faculty. Can’t have the indoctrinators getting sick, or worse. They also have “free clinics” on most campuses these days, and all of the medical care folks would get sick too...
Or forced quarantine for people that won’t properly self-quarantine. Potentially for medical workers in some locations.
Just when you couldn’t be more disgusted. Here’s a series of clips in a video of the Chinese purposefully spitting and doing things to spread germs when no one can see. ( on carts/elevator buttons, on people, etc)
https://mobile.twitter.com/pradipjaihind/status/1237275147481972736
Agreed on that one.
Actually, they (the Chinese) would be crazy not to.
This is the impression I got as well. It’s how Trump looks when he can’t tell us the real story. Possibly the virus was ours? Just speculation . . .
Interesting email from my family doctor today about some new policies:
Sick patients will use their cars as their waiting room.
· When you arrive for your sick visit appointment- you stay in your car and call us to alert the office of your arrival.
· As soon as an exam room becomes available, we will have you go directly from your car to the exam room.
· Out of an abundance of caution, we are asking that the family members of sick patients to not accompany the individual into the medical office unless the patient clearly requires assistance.
· All patients should prepare for your visit with our ‘pre-check-in’. Prior to every visit, our patients receive a link sent to their phones. It is important for all patients, especially sick patients, to complete all possible prompts and questions prior to arriving to the office.
· If you are sick and are scheduled to come to our office for labs, kindly call the office and we will reschedule your lab appointment.
· Additionally, we continue to make every possible effort to promptly work patients into the schedule that wish to be seen, but request that our sick patients avoid walk-ins (coming to the office without an appointment) at this time. In the unlikely event that you become sick after contact with someone with known Coronavirus infection or after travel from China, South Korea, Italy, Iran, or Japan we ask that you call our office and our providers will arrange all appropriate testing.
Thanks for post. Will not agree with force either. There’s no known treatment re fo rer corona, only palliative methods (at least air bags etc for vehicle). So current priority is prevention
not sure if you can call these countries ‘first world’ (except Israel) (the doc is a bit dated tho, They’re at level 4 do not travel now):
Countries barring entry to travellers from Italy or to those who have visited the country in the previous 14 days include: Aruba, Bahrain, Cook Islands, El Salvador, Fiji, Iraq, Israel (excepting Israelis), Jamaica (excepting residents), Jordan (excepting Jordanians), Kuwait, Lebanon, Madagascar, Mauritius, Mongolia, the Palestinian Territories, Saint Lucia, the Seychelles, Solomon Islands, Trinidad & Tobago, Turkey, Turkmenistan and Vietnam. Several other countries adopted various degrees of restrictions.
I hope you saw my post, no one was forced to any kind of camp. This is a nice RV state park, my family has camped there. There has to be a place for step down from hospitals, to free up hospital rooms. It’s no different than using college dorms except there’s a lot more distance and fresh air.
I wonder what all those new storefront doctor’s offices are doing. Keeping the front door locked, I’m guessing. Just answering the phone?
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