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Origin of Coronavirus? (vanity)
3-9-20 | Myself

Posted on 03/09/2020 6:59:22 AM PDT by Crucial

It appears to me that the outbreak of the coronavirus is the fault of lax pathogen containment procedures on the part of the Chinese government at minimum. This is only a general theory that I've been able to piece together from various podcasts but it seems to make sense given the facts.

The Coronovirus or its immediate predecessor was CREATED in 2015 by an international project in which both the United Stated and China were participants. The head Chinese researcher whose name I have only heard and have not read (I am not very good at spelling Chinese names even in English, Dr. Hsu Jung Le is my closest approximation) synthesized a coronavirus/ SARS hybrid. Given how deadly it turned out to be, the United States government had the project shut down. It was not known what research Hsu possessed when the project was ended.

Apparently, Hsu ended up as a director a, where else but the Wuhan Institute of Virology. Recently two researchers were jailed for selling lab animals to the surrounding population. Also, China decided to upgrade the procedures regarding the handling of deadly pathogens in its virology labs.

So what this tells me is that China created a deadly virus, took it to Wuhan and that pathogen escaped due to China's negligence as illustrated by its lax pathogen protocols. The Chinese government knew about the outbreak in November because students at the University of Beijing were being infected. The Chinese knew about it and didn't tell the world for at least a month and a half.


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To: corkoman
I think this is the most likely scenario - there is no reason the chiComms would release this intentionally. Makes no sense.

Certainly not deliberately until they had a vaccine.

OTOH, has a single Polt Bureau member fallen ill?

Asking for a friend...

21 posted on 03/09/2020 7:43:02 AM PDT by null and void (By the pricking of my lungs, Something wicked this way comes ...)
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To: jetson

Above all, this illustrates to incredible imbecility of being so economically dependent on communist China for the production of goods. Trump had very good foresight in this regard.


22 posted on 03/09/2020 7:51:08 AM PDT by Crucial
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To: Crucial

Xi permitted the spread to end the Hong Kong protests.
Xi prefers chaos to containment quelle surprise


23 posted on 03/09/2020 7:53:18 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (CNN's Dana B: "Show of hands: Coverage for undocumented immigrants?" ***all Democrat hands raised***)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

It would be a shame if America doesnt use this extremely costly and dangerous crisis
as the necessary justification to decouple its economy from China.


24 posted on 03/09/2020 7:54:17 AM PDT by Crucial
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To: Crucial

It would be a shame if America doesnt use this extremely costly and dangerous crisis
as the necessary justification to decouple its economy from China.

^^^^^^^^^^
This!


25 posted on 03/09/2020 7:56:48 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: TheDon
"Deep State and China colluding to collapse the US economy prior to the presidential election in an attempt to be rid of a common enemy?"

Add Russia and Saudi Arabia tanking the oil market to put US shale and deep water out of business to help cause a recession during the election cycle and you have a deep state one-two punch.

26 posted on 03/09/2020 8:29:10 AM PDT by Uncle Sham
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To: Crucial

this is the question that may never be asked by a government - because it could ultimately lead to world war 3 down the road. this could potentially be that big a deal.

disturbingly, apparently china is ratcheting up propaganda about US origin of the virus.

depending on where this goes, it may be the biggest destabilization globally since WW2, at a minimum.


27 posted on 03/09/2020 8:29:51 AM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: flamberge

i lived in the third world much of my life. the idea of janitors selling bats for extra cash is 100% believable, though we will never really know the truth.


28 posted on 03/09/2020 8:30:32 AM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: a fool in paradise
Wasn’t just containment problems. They tried to hide the outbreak.

The great lesson of the Coronavirus is most countries didn't take the December outbreak in China seriously enough. Taiwan, Vietnam, and Singapore took draconian steps to contain to virus, like breaking all travel with China. Western Europe, Japan, South Korea, and the United States conducted business as usual and hoped for the best. Now we're paying for it. I don't think the virus can be contained now. Cat's out of the bag.

The U.S. still allows flights to and from South Korea and Italy - which is crazy.

29 posted on 03/09/2020 8:36:09 AM PDT by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: Crucial

What gets me about China and disease is almost all of them come from China. Ebola is the only one I can think of that didn’t come from China. Bird flu, Swine flu, Sar’s, COVID-19, and many more all originated in China. Isn’t Africa a dirtier place than China? If China can’t clean up it’s act, why doesn’t the WHO or the UN or some other organization penalize them until they clean up their country?


30 posted on 03/09/2020 8:37:54 AM PDT by chuckles
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To: Crucial

“It would be a shame if America doesnt use this extremely costly and dangerous crisis as the necessary justification to decouple its economy from China.”

Agreed.


31 posted on 03/09/2020 8:37:59 AM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: Right_Wing_Madman

Taiwan and Singapore learned a hard lesson with SARS, epidemiology & disease spread, and Chicoms lying.

Perhaps we will learn our lesson this time.


32 posted on 03/09/2020 8:38:37 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: flamberge

It’s the “Mad Scientist Syndrome”


33 posted on 03/09/2020 8:56:31 AM PDT by Cold Heart (.)
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To: corkoman

“And I have to say that it appears the Chinese, in general, are less concerned about others as they are about themselves. Half of Wuton population (about 5 MILLION) fled to avoid being quarantined in the city.”

Yeah, sorry, but if some Communists wanted to “quarantine” my city, I’d be getting the hell out of dodge too. Don’t think I can judge the Chinese too harshly for that.


34 posted on 03/09/2020 8:57:42 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: WoofDog123
I lived and worked in China for a time. Their maintenance of critical production facilities was uniformly terrible.

The idea that a BL4 lab technician screwed up a containment protocol in late September, and the Chinese bureaucracy tried to hide it until late December is 100% believable to me.

The "Chinese Apology" is a belligerent denial, in great detail, of everything that they just did. And the people who just did it, get fired. Or shot, depending on the severity of the problem.

The people who directly caused this problem are most likely dead now.

35 posted on 03/09/2020 8:57:52 AM PDT by flamberge (The wheels keep turning)
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To: Crucial

It would be a shame if America doesnt use this extremely costly and dangerous crisis
as the necessary justification to decouple its economy from China.


Agree!!

I can’t believe POTUS us the saying the same. He’s the ONE person that’s been screaming about our China dependence, for years.


36 posted on 03/09/2020 9:03:00 AM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.cuase)
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To: LIConFem

Don’t libs and one worlders want to reduce the world’s population and send folks back to the dark ages so they can rule unabated?


37 posted on 03/09/2020 9:04:34 AM PDT by Harpotoo (Being a socialist is a lot easier than having to WORK like the rest of US:-))
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To: Black Agnes
Taiwan and Singapore learned a hard lesson with SARS, epidemiology & disease spread, and Chicoms lying.

Yep.

38 posted on 03/09/2020 9:24:20 AM PDT by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: flamberge

100% agreed.

If the disease didn’t kill them, the CCP/PLA did.

Probably their next of kin too. Just because.


39 posted on 03/09/2020 9:25:46 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Jane Long

Should say ...why isn’t POTUS saying the same...


40 posted on 03/09/2020 10:18:25 AM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.cuase)
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