Nearly $25M Available to Substance Use Prevention Coalitions in New Partnership Between ONDCP and CDC

whitehouse.gov ^ | February 18, 2020 | White House

[Sacajaweau]

Wonder what the “cure” pill will be for Marijuana addiction AFTER they hook a few million folks.

[NobleFree]

Legalizing states have seen modest if any increases in marijuana use - and it's less addictive than alcohol.

[Vigilanteman]

The big question is how much of the $25,000,000 can be skimmed by grifters in blue city governments pretending to provide help?

[NobleFree]

Young people have been reporting since well before any state had legalized that they could get marijuana almost as easily as cigarettes or beer, although the latter two are much more widespread among adults. The available evidence indicates that the best way of keeping a drug away from young people is to legalize it for adults - which gives its sellers an economic incentive to confine their sales to adults, namely the risk of losing their legal adult market.

[Truthoverpower]

Cannibis is medicine not a drug

Ask all the folks using CBD

[ransomnote]

The available evidence indicates that the best way of keeping a drug away from young people is to legalize it for adults - which gives its sellers an economic incentive to confine their sales to adults, namely the risk of losing their legal adult market.

No. The actual evidence shows that states like CO that legalize pot have high school students showing up to school under the infuence in greater numbers. The "legal" Drug cartels have made QUITE the propaganda campaign with fake studies supporting legalization. But schools have to help keep the truth quiet so many have policies which state that students will not be arrested or sent home for arriving to school high. School resource officers and some brave school counselors are sounding the alarm, but the "legalize pot" drug cartels have the money and power to silence objections...for now.

FOrtunately, PResident Trump has created some policy documents which will make it harder for states to legitimize dealing pot. I think it had something to do with federal funding. Don't have the link right now but it was very encouraging.

[NobleFree]

The actual evidence shows that states like CO that legalize pot have high school students showing up to school under the infuence in greater numbers.

Link?

FOrtunately, PResident Trump has created some policy documents which will make it harder for states to legitimize dealing pot.

I'll believe it when I see it. He's consistently been states-rights on this issue.

[ransomnote]

I believe I’ve seen you on other threads and I KNOW I’ve provided links on threads like this one, but those who favor legalization reject any information to the contrary. Sorry, but that’s been my experience; I’ve never seen anyone reconsider.

[NobleFree]

FOrtunately, PResident Trump has created some policy documents which will make it harder for states to legitimize dealing pot. I think it had something to do with federal funding.

You're probably thinking of the budget rider that has since 2014 prevented the use of DoJ funds for going after medical marijuana in states that allow it. Trump's latest budget proposal omits that rider - but so did his previous two budget proposals, and Congress re-inserted the rider.

IMO that omission is the DoJ Deep State trying to protect its historical prerogatives.

[NobleFree]

I’ve never seen anyone reconsider.

That doesn't relieve you of your responsibility for supporting your claims.

[ransomnote]

Doesn’t mean I have to “fetch” every time someone who just wants to deny the evidence orders me to.

[NobleFree]

Deny WHAT "evidence"? So far all we have is your say-so.

[NobleFree]

“Past 30 day marijuana use among Colorado high school students has remained stable from 2005 through 2017.” - https://www.colorado.gov/pacific/marijuanahealthinfo/HKCS-data

Ball’s in your court.

[NobleFree]

"Data from the Colorado Department of Education show that that drug suspension rates increased from 391 (per 100,000 registered students) in the 2008‐09 school year to 551 in 2010‐11. The drug suspension rate fluctuated somewhat since then and was 507 in the 2017‐18 school year. The drug expulsion rate was 65 (per 100,000 registered students) in the 2008‐09 school year, increasing to 91 in 2010‐11, and then decreasing to 38 by 2017‐18. " - https://cdpsdocs.state.co.us/ors/docs/reports/2018-SB13-283_Rpt.pdf

[ransomnote]

"Data from the Colorado Department of Education show that that drug suspension rates increased from 391 (per 100,000 registered students) in the 2008‐09 school year to 551 in 2010‐11. The drug suspension rate fluctuated somewhat since then and was 507 in the 2017‐18 school year. The drug expulsion rate was 65 (per 100,000 registered students) in the 2008‐09 school year, increasing to 91 in 2010‐11, and then decreasing to 38 by 2017‐18. " - https://cdpsdocs.state.co.us/ors/docs/reports/2018-SB13-283_Rpt.pdf

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Yes, yes... I have read that the last time we talked about this. The schools have policies to increase tolerance for drug use - they are now less inclined to discipline students AT ALL for drug offenses. Most won't suspend for drug use alone but more often in combination with other actions. SO, the numbers "look good" but the people who deal with the actual fallout (resource officers and school counselors) who aren't allowed to write the state reports reveal a sad situation that with drug use, more students showing up on campus high, their school performance drops etc.

I worked at a school that would not call the cops or suspend students for showing up high. They would retain the student on campus until their parents could pick them up and sometimes that meant until the end of the school day. Schools aren't required to call the cops because it either excites, upsets, or traumatizes students depending on their history, and they are too wired to study the rest of the day, week etc. Also, schools try to avoid contributing to student's rap sheets.

[NobleFree]

the people who deal with the actual fallout (resource officers and school counselors) who aren't allowed to write the state reports reveal a sad situation that with drug use, more students showing up on campus high

In other words, the evidence is anecdotal. Got it.

[ransomnote]

In other words, the evidence is anecdotal. Got it.
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Oh if I post links, deniers scream they are biased. If I give first hand accounts (mine and that of resource officers and school counselors) you say it’s anecdotal. This is what I meant about not bothering to post to someone who only intends to reject any and all information contradicting them. The legalized drug cartel has a foothold in the right places and so adherents will only accept specific sources of information and shriek “LA LA LA LA I CAN’T HEAR YOU” through anything else. You got what you wanted.

[NobleFree]

“the last time we talked about this.”

Speaking of previous exchanges:

‘So every study that doesn’t fit your preconceptions is “distorted” and “bought and paid for by the massive pot lobby” - but drug enforcement agents are an unbiased source of data.

‘ROTFLMAO!’

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3602041/replies?c=57

[ransomnote]

‘ROTFLMAO!’
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Still wasting my time? I posted as I did because those visiting this thread not hardened to their views might be interested to know that there is more to the story than meets the eye - the legal drug cartels have a grip and President Trump is workin’ on it.