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To: 21twelve

this sounds like one could keep their shoes and coat outside for half and hour and then it’d be ok to bring it back in?


344 posted on 02/16/2020 1:40:08 AM PST by blueplum ( ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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4:20 pm: Two Chicago patients released from home isolation
Two people in Chicago who were infected with the virus were released from home isolation on Friday, following U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) guidance.
The woman, a Chicago resident in her 60s who had visited Wuhan, China, was the first confirmed Illinois case of the virus on Jan. 24. Her husband, also in his 60s, was the second confirmed Illinois case and first human-to-human transmission in the U.S. on Jan. 30.
“We believe both patients can now safely return to their regular activities, including work, without restrictions,” said the Chicago Department of Public Health’s Dr. Allison Arwady.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/15/coronavirus-live-updates-france-confirms-first-death-outside-of-asia.html

same link:
1:30 pm: Xi started fighting virus earlier than previously known, newly published speech shows
Chinese President Xi Jinping issued internal orders regarding the virus outbreak roughly two weeks before his first public statements on the epidemic, according to a newly published speech on Saturday in the Qiushi Journal, the Communist Party’s top publication.
The speech indicates that Xi started giving orders about the outbreak as early as Jan. 7. His first public instructions on the epidemic was Jan. 20, in which he provided brief instructions on the virus.
China’s release of the speech is an apparent effort to mitigate public anger over the handling of the outbreak, and show that Xi has led


345 posted on 02/16/2020 2:03:26 AM PST by blueplum ( ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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Shoes would probably be a “hard surface” where a virus lasts longer. Also - those studies were based on the “typical” flu. (It may have been H1N1?) And iirc that flu virus would be viable up to 24 hours on a hard surface.

This Wuhan virus they say might last 5 days or longer on a hard surface - so perhaps you need to go several hours outside? And it would need to be dry.

Of course if it is real bad, you would limit your trips outside. Perhaps keep a pair of boots, coveralls, etc. outside to just put on when you leave. And just treat them as contaminated. Put your gloves, mask and goggles on first. Or - have a bucket of bleach water to toss the coveralls in and another to clean your boots off with. After the coveralls have soaked for 10 mins, put them in a plastic bag, dump in the washing machine, and take the bag outside again?

The virus can get into sores and cuts in the skin, but otherwise, the “typical” flu virus only lasts 5 to 10 minutes(?) on the skin due to enzymes that destroy the outer shell. (Shell isn’t the right term, I forget what it is.)

I don’t know. I used to work at hazardous waste sites. It takes a lot of effort to make sure you’re not taking anything nasty out of the site. Lots of disposables. Which is okay when the client is getting charged for everything.

Not so easy when it is just your family, and you only have a few boxes of N95 masks and a few Tyvek suits at $20 a piece.


350 posted on 02/16/2020 2:53:35 AM PST by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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To: blueplum

Why would anyone bring in that possibly contaminated coat and shoes? They’ve said it lives on dry surfaces for days and weeks. I’m leaving mine not only outside but around the corner of the house so the wind doesn’t blow it toward the door.


428 posted on 02/16/2020 9:35:23 AM PST by bgill
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