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AP Explains: Why isn't there a winner of Iowa's Dem caucuses (still counting)
SF Gate ^ | 2/10/20

Posted on 02/11/2020 2:28:10 AM PST by Libloather

On the eve of the New Hampshire primary, how can it be there is still no winner of last week's Iowa caucuses?

Final results of the Democratic caucus were released late Sunday, after the Iowa Democratic Party made a series of corrections to a tally initially delayed by several days. That's not the end of the count, however, as Sen. Bernie Sanders and former South Bend, Indiana, Mayor Pete Buttigieg exercised their right Monday to ask the state party to take another look at its reporting of the results.

Amid those delays in getting the data and after observing irregularities in the results once they did arrive, The Associated Press decided it cannot declare a winner in the first contest to decide the Democratic Party's nominee to challenge President Donald Trump in November.

(Excerpt) Read more at m.sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Conspiracy; History; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: caucus; democrat; hillary; iowa
Those numbers could yet still change.

RATS have run out of fingers and toes and are now looking for additional volunteers.

1 posted on 02/11/2020 2:28:10 AM PST by Libloather
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To: Libloather

Counting till Bernie loses (A Counting Till the Democrat Wins subsidiary)


2 posted on 02/11/2020 2:30:53 AM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Libloather

There was a winner.

Donald j trump.


3 posted on 02/11/2020 2:38:44 AM PST by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world)
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To: teeman8r

Right!


4 posted on 02/11/2020 2:47:08 AM PST by philippa
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To: Libloather

Turns out Buttplugme is connected in a number of ways to the app they used - per Lou Dobbs


5 posted on 02/11/2020 2:51:50 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Libloather

One of the features of well constructed game is the ability to clearly determine a winner, or identify a draw.

Elections, the same thing.

Unnecessary complexity opens opportunities for manipulation.

IOW, it’s a feature, not a bug.


6 posted on 02/11/2020 2:52:29 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Every election, more or less, is an advance auction of stolen goods. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: Libloather
[ how can it be there is still no winner of last week's Iowa caucuses? ]

Because the Democrats aren't competent enough to run a train-wreck? Or rather, the Democrats ARE a train-wreck?


7 posted on 02/11/2020 2:53:10 AM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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The NYT reported the first signs of trouble at the Iowa Caucuses came early.

<><> the smartphone app had been ok’ed last fall by Harvard’s Harvard’s “Defending Digital Democracy Project”
to develop strategies and systems to protect results and deal with misinformation (LA Times report).

<><> The Harvard group included “party campaign experts” and experts in
(A) cybersecurity, (B) national security, (C) technology and (D) election administration.

<><> fortuitously, the Harvard group simulated different ways “things could go wrong” on caucus night.

<><> (cue maniacal laugh machine here).

<><> but a simple task like reporting the results began failing last Monday night.

<><> “quick-thinking” Democrat party officials then instructed precinct leaders to move to Plan B:

<><> plan B had precincts call-in results into caucus hdq in Des Moines, to be entered into a secure system by volunteers.

<><> but when volunteers tried to log on, they discovered they needed smartphones to retrieve a code,

<><> the caucus team had been told NOT to bring phones into the “boiler room” in Des Moines.

<><> a torrent of results were phoned in from gyms, union halls and elsewhere, places that made the Iowa caucuses a world-famous “model of democracy,”

<><> it soon became clear that the whole smart-phone, app process was melting down.

<><> desperate volunteers resorted to passing around a spare iPad to log into the system

<><> other Dems , desperate to verify results, were telling precinct leaders to email photos of worksheets that tallied results — to a dedicated email address.

<><> for hours, no one monitored the inbox; finally opened Tues AM, there were 700 emails with photos sent sideways;

<><> volunteers faced the task of deciphering the handwritten forms.

<><> Iowa Demo Party chair, Troy Price, huddled with other Democrat officials,

<><> alas, no Democrat had a clear strategy to manage the unfolding chaos with exasperated presidential campaigns.


8 posted on 02/11/2020 2:56:41 AM PST by Liz (Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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To: Liz

Demo Party chair? More like Demo Derby chair.


9 posted on 02/11/2020 3:02:05 AM PST by NonValueAdded ("Sorry, your race card has been declined. Can you present any other form of argument?")
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To: Libloather

That is what you get when you use common core math.


10 posted on 02/11/2020 3:03:12 AM PST by just me (God bless President Trump and the USA)
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To: Libloather
From 2016 a classic that is now even more pertinent for 2020!


11 posted on 02/11/2020 3:31:29 AM PST by SES1066 (Happiness is a depressed Washington, DC housing market!)
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To: Libloather

Yeah, I don’t understand why you can’t just count the paper by this time...

But then, its just the dumblecrats and I don’t really care...


12 posted on 02/11/2020 3:51:17 AM PST by Adder ("Can you be more stupid?" is a question, not a challenge.)
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To: Libloather

Problems for Nevada caucus counting votes.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/nevada-democrats-canceled-their-caucus-app-but-that-poses-its-own-problems


13 posted on 02/11/2020 3:54:14 AM PST by Atlantan
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To: Libloather

Is it because President Trump actually got the most votes?


14 posted on 02/11/2020 4:04:48 AM PST by Afterguard (Deplorable me!)
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To: Libloather
Why isn't there a winner of Iowa's Dem caucuses?

Because even the corrupt cannot comprehend the scope of the incompetent.

15 posted on 02/11/2020 4:58:23 AM PST by Roccus (Prima di ogni altra cosa, siate armati!)
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To: Libloather

I thought they said the first count couldn’t be changed because it was “official” or some such...??? How many times do they need wrong answers until they get the results they want? What ARE the results they want?


16 posted on 02/11/2020 4:32:54 PM PST by oldtech
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