[ConservativeDude]

I agree entirely. My only point being if someone wants to talk about origins you have to dig pretty deep.

I also agree with the post about the Iliad and have taught that same point often in the past. I also almost mentioned Rapture. Ah blondie. Legendary.

[a fool in paradise]

Blondie knew Fab 5 Freddy and had run in those circles for years. She even waitressed at Velvet Underground shows.