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To: DiogenesLamp

No the South shouldn’t have seceded from the Union. Do you consider yourself an American or a Southner?


110 posted on 02/07/2020 10:47:56 PM PST by jmacusa ("If wisdom is not the Lord, what is wisdom?)
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To: jmacusa; DiogenesLamp; HandyDandy; Pelham

I can’t see how he could be proud of America since he seems to agree with these liberal loons that the founding fathers were just a bunch of racist who actually didn’t believe the words of “all men are created equal” in the Declaration of Independence they signed.

Here’s a quote from James Madison from his notes on the constitutional convention that will shed some light on why the founders did not use the word slavery in it.

“The convention thought it wrong to admit in the constitution the idea that there could be property in men.”
James Madison records of the convention August 25 1787

Notice he says the convention, in other words everyone there. Even the representatives from South Carolina, North Carolina, and Georgie. The same representatives that blocked an immediate halt to the slave trade and threatened to walk out if slavery was not protected. Even they knew slavery was wrong.


112 posted on 02/08/2020 6:46:13 AM PST by OIFVeteran
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To: jmacusa
No the South shouldn’t have seceded from the Union.

The South should have left or remained as their voters saw fit. Consent of the governed is the central principle upon which this nation was founded.

Do you consider yourself an American or a Southner?

I am not a Southerner, and I think the most American idea of all is "consent of the governed." It's also known as "freedom."

I currently see our existing government oppressing me in all sorts of ways, not the least of which is paying for things to which I object (Abortion, Welfare, Corporate Welfare) against my will.

Taxation is in itself a form of slavery in which a person toils for gain while others enjoy the fruits of his labor.

117 posted on 02/10/2020 8:15:43 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no oither sovereignty."/)
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