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This British Man Living in China Claims He Beat Coronavirus With ‘Hot Whiskey and Honey’
India ^ | 2/05/20

Posted on 02/05/2020 5:55:59 PM PST by Libloather

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To: Libloather

Amusing story. It is all Bull Shit. It it was accurate I would be totally immune. I am not.


41 posted on 02/05/2020 9:07:39 PM PST by cpdiii ( canecutter, deckhand, roughneck, geologist, pilot, pharmacist THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR)
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To: Libloather

I think he OD'd.

42 posted on 02/05/2020 9:19:36 PM PST by Bommer (2020 - Vote all incumbent congressmen and senators out! VOTE THE BUMS OUT!!!)
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To: Libloather

It is worth trying, (with MANUKA HONEY) but does ANYONE think this guy could get REAL honey in shithole wuhan china, where the low quality of filthy disgusting food makes the locals literally batshit (soup) insane? So, in the end, i call BS


43 posted on 02/05/2020 9:27:13 PM PST by Captainpaintball
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To: Libloather

He probably would have gotten well anyway, but this way he enjoyed it more.
Cheers!


44 posted on 02/05/2020 9:29:38 PM PST by GnuThere
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To: pinkandgreenmom

My grandfather was a Pentecostal preacher. He always kept a bottle of bourbon in the house for ‘medicinal purposes only’. If we were sick we got the whiskey, honey, and lemon treatment.


45 posted on 02/06/2020 5:38:27 AM PST by sheana
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To: livius

Here in East TN we mostly use moonshine (8 distillers within 10 miles of my home) with honey and lemon. Have to be cautious heating the mixture, but the vapor coming out the top of the warm cup is as beneficial as the drink. Opens up the breathing pretty good while the drink itself coats the throat with a sterilizing elixer which seems to loosen up and soothe the bronchial passageways. Drink several and you wont care if you are sick or not


46 posted on 02/06/2020 7:25:21 AM PST by backtobasics
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To: freeandfreezing

Current data indicates a fatality rate of around 2%. That is 20 times higher than the typical flu, which is why there is so much concern about the virus.


I asked my doctor about it yesterday. He said the mortality rate for the typical flu is 4%.

This Corona virus has about half the mortality rate of the typical flu. He said he didn’t understated what the fuss was all about, that this is way less serious than the regular flu or something like H1N1.


47 posted on 02/06/2020 8:28:54 AM PST by webstersII
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To: webstersII
I asked my doctor about it yesterday. He said the mortality rate for the typical flu is 4%.

Either there was some miscommunication or your doctor is very misinformed.

A reasonable place to start is to look at what the CDC reports. Here is CDC web page on the topic

The fatality rate can be computed since it is the number of deaths divided by the number of cases. The rate varies from year to year, most likely as a result of the severity of symptoms associated with each influenza strain.

If you get out your calculator and do the calculations you will see that the mortality rate for the flu is nowhere close to 4%.

Here are the numbers for 2015-2016. 24 million cases, 38,000 deaths. The fatality rate is 0.15%, or expressed another way for each 631.6 flu cases someone dies.

Mortality rates of 2% or 4% that occur because of a widespread infectious disease cause great disruption to society. A 4 percent mortality rate would mean that 960,000 people would have died from the flu during the 2015-2016 flu season, 25 times the number of people who actually died.

To put it in perspective, around 2.8 million people die each year in the United States, of which 38,000 died as a result of the flu in the 2015-2016 flu season. That means that the flu caused about 1.3% of all fatalities during that period.

If the flu had a death rate of 4%, the number of deaths would be higher by 922,000 and the yearly total deaths would be 3.7 million people. In that situation 26% of all of the deaths in the country would be from the flu.

How much do you think that would affect society?

One way to answer that question is to look closely at what is happening in China, where trying to cross a quarantine roadblock gets you shot on sight, and the police are welding doors shut on buildings with known virus cases inside. And leaving your home is essentially illegal without specific permission.

48 posted on 02/06/2020 1:00:51 PM PST by freeandfreezing
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To: livius

Rock and Rye and Lemon


49 posted on 02/06/2020 1:04:00 PM PST by AppyPappy (How many fingers am I holding up, Winston?)
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To: backtobasics

I got some Elderberry moonshine from a distillery in Floyd Va. That stuff is the bomb. I think I’m feeling a bit chilled. I may have to have a dose.


50 posted on 02/06/2020 1:06:43 PM PST by AppyPappy (How many fingers am I holding up, Winston?)
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To: freeandfreezing
Current data indicates a fatality rate of around 2%. That is 20 times higher than the typical flu, which is why there is so much concern about the virus.

What? Going off the official numbers, the mortality rate is 29%. 637 deaths, 1542 recoveries, from the official Chinese numbers.
51 posted on 02/06/2020 6:51:22 PM PST by Svartalfiar
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To: webstersII
This Corona virus has about half the mortality rate of the typical flu. He said he didn’t understated what the fuss was all about, that this is way less serious than the regular flu or something like H1N1.

See my post 51. Off of the official Chinese numbers, the mortality rate is way higher (29%). Going off of the tencent leaked numbers, the rate was even higher: 98%, so maybe 85% accounting for people that didn't get sick enough to go to the hospital/weren't diagnosed.
52 posted on 02/06/2020 6:54:43 PM PST by Svartalfiar
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The mortality rate is based on the number of fatalities divided by the number of infections. The number of recoveries is an interesting number, but not relevant to computing mortality rate.

At this point exact mortality rate values are nearly impossible to determine since the denominator, the number of infections, is hard to know. Assuming that the data reported by the Chinese is accurate, the number of diagnosed cases is about 31,211. So the mortality rate is 637 divided by 31,211.

That value is .0204 which is 2%.

It is likely that the number of infections is higher since people may have caught the virus and did not get severe symptoms, and the Chinese are limited in how many people they can test. So they are more likely to be testing the more severe cases.

It is also possible that the number of deaths attributable to the disease is higher. Early on doctors may have seen patients with similar symptoms and assumed it was a typical viral infection, not a novel virus.

Some reporters have suggested that the infection and death numbers are both higher, with the Chinese government reporting only fully confirmed cases.

But thankfully, the mortality rate you suggested is not correct.

53 posted on 02/06/2020 7:11:52 PM PST by freeandfreezing
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Doing “mortality rate math” right now is not going to yield anything close to a real number...thousands and thousands of the 1.5 billion Chinese who might be sick with 2019-nCoV never arrive at the hospital/clinic to be counted, the CCP “official” numbers are high suspect, etc, etc.. Better numbers will be had when we see recovery rates/deaths in Western countries.


54 posted on 02/06/2020 7:21:59 PM PST by Drago
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To: freeandfreezing
Some reporters have suggested that the infection and death numbers are both higher, with the Chinese government reporting only fully confirmed cases.

The Chinese numbers will always be wildly off, so no mortality rate can even come close to being maybe half-accurate (based on their gov't figures). China's numbers are extremely low for them to be quarantining cities / taking all the precautions they are; also consider the 'leaked' tencent numbers being 10-20x higher than the official figures.
- Chinese 'face' culture does nothing but fudge numbers to look better.
- China doesn't have enough test kits to confirm every person, so many deaths/recoveries aren't even in the numbers, as they were never 'officially' confirmed as the virus.
- Many deaths outside of hospitals are simply swept under the rug / attributed elsewhere.
- People who are immune/resistant never go to the hospital/doc, so are never confirmed (these cases actually lower the mortality rate).
- And, as you mentioned, early on many docs may have just assumed a regular flu, not the new one.


The mortality rate is based on the number of fatalities divided by the number of infections. The number of recoveries is an interesting number, but not relevant to computing mortality rate.

No, it's not. Mortality is based on deaths out of the number who have fully run through the course of the disease. Like I told someone else, if the Rangers are beating the Yankees 7-3 in the fifth inning, you can't say they won the game. It may end up 17-3, it may end up 7-8. The score isn't set til the game is over.

If your mortality rate is truly 50%, but only 5/100 people have died, that doesn't make the rate 5%. It simply means that ~45 people haven't died yet. Currently infected is not a known entity, so they can't be used to calculate the results of the disease, as they have no results to weigh the numbers in either direction.


But thankfully, the mortality rate you suggested is not correct.

I certainly hope it is wrong, but that's just going off the numbers they put out. But we won't know until more of the infected either die or recover. And, of course, more accurate numbers are smuggled out somehow. Lord knows even if China does let these US help, it'll be limited/restricted and will still cover up as much as possible.
55 posted on 02/06/2020 9:43:48 PM PST by Svartalfiar
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