Posted on 01/14/2020 10:25:39 AM PST by nickcarraway
Transit officials said they pulled nearly 300 of the MTAs newest subway cars after two door malfunctions but records show the $600 million fleets recent woes go beyond the pair of incidents.
Between Dec. 1 and Jan. 7, the new R179 subway cars recorded 16 incidents including at least 10 involving doors, according to internal reports obtained by THE CITY.
The reports cited repeated issues of guard light trouble. Guard lights are the red indicators that show whether doors are fully closed. In some cases, a door panel had to be locked, leaving passengers a narrow entry and exit, the records show.
In the most troubling incident on Dec. 24 a set of doors on a C train moving south of High Street remained a few inches ajar because a locking mechanism was not secure, New York City Transit President Andy Byford said Thursday.
The other incident cited by Byford occured on Jan. 3 when a computer system failed to indicate whether a door was closed.
Door should not open en route, period, Byford said, adding that riders were not in harms way.
He added that its not unusual for trains to encounter door problems. But the Dec. 24 and Jan. 3 incidents, he said, stood out.
A Broader Issue Eyed THE CITY examined the reports Thursday after Byford acknowledged the possibility of a broader issue with the cars built by Canadian manufacturer Bombardier.
New York City Transit President Andy Byford attends an MTA board meeting last year. New York City Transit President Andy Byford attends an MTA board meeting last year. Photo: Ben Fractenberg/THE CITY You dont withdraw a fleet lightly, but I saw enough to say to me, I want this whole fleet checked and well put in old trains instead, Byford said.
The two episodes with glitchy doors which Byford said initially appeared to be routine marked only the latest problem with the MTAs purchase from the railcar manufacturer.
Tim Minton, a spokesperson for New York City Transit, said only those two incidents posed concern over the reliability of door-locking mechanisms and described the others as ordinary operational matters on doors that are exposed to weather elements and constant use.
The new subway cars, as THE CITY reported in November, have endured more frequent failures than some models that have been in service since the 1980s.
Still, New York City Transit data shows the reliability of the R179 cars has been on a recent upswing, with mechanical problems that cause delays occurring every 168,365 miles in November 2019. That figure marked an improvement from the breakdowns every 91,179 miles last March.
Maryanne Roberts, a spokesperson for Bombardier, attributed the Dec. 24 and Jan. 3 problems to a rare and very specific combination of unforeseen mechanical and operational circumstances.
That being said, safety is our utmost priority, which is why we are acting swiftly and decisively to put in place corrective measures on the entire fleet to ensure that the door mechanisms always perform as expected, she added.
Legal Options Weighed Byford said the MTA is evaluating all legal options against Bombardier, including recouping costs incurred by having to pull the new cars off the tracks.
The company already has been locked out of the new contract to build the MTAs next generation of trains, amid late delivery of the R179 cars. Kawasaki was awarded the latest train contract in 2018.
An MTA incident report documents trouble with a door on a new R179 car. An MTA incident report documents trouble with a door on a new R179 car. Photo: Ben Fractenberg/THE CITY We are not impotent, we have mechanisms we can use against a vendor, Neal Zuckerman, an MTA board member, told THE CITY.
The 298 cars that had been running on the A, C, J and Z lines have been benched indefinitely while inspections are conducted by Bombardier, door system supplier Kangni and an engineering firm brought in by the MTA. Only 24 cars had undergone initial inspections as of Thursday, Byford said.
In their place, spare subway cars including some of the oldest and least reliable in the MTAs fleet have been pressed into duty.
They were going to keep some of them in case of an emergency, said Andrew Albert, an MTA board member. But this is just too much.
I guess this is NYC.
So it would appear. I can remember riding the NYC subway for 15 cents.
I remember 10 cents. When the fare was raised to 15 cents, they went to using tokens.
Bombardier Inc!
That Trudeau guy and his crappy companies stealing American jobs.
All his fault.
Byford used to run the Toronto Transit Commission. He had endless delays and poor assembly on new streetcars from Bombardier as well. They have good enough stuff to make sales but actual performance has not gone well.
ordinary operational matters
Umm, I’ve ridden a lot of subway trains and never once in my life have I seen a door open while the train was in motion, or a train that would even start moving while one of the doors was open. That’s not “ordinary”, it’s a serious design flaw.
“Bomb” produced a large order of cars for the Chicago “L” system in recent years. So many problems, so much drama, cost overruns...the company was cut out of bidding on the next order of cars, which is causing controversy because the winning manufacturer is Chinese.
Without Can-Con (and no surviving American competitors) they’d be dead....
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.