Posted on 01/11/2020 8:04:19 PM PST by BenLurkin
Folks, you have to admit. It is entertaining to live in a world gone insane, in a sad sort of way.
Ethics not a strong point I suppose?
“By any means” is a leftist/statist principle. Long live the state!
Qualified Immunity is a wonderful thing (for thugs in various offices).
See post #20.
"Qualified immunity" should be made illegal in this country.
Amen.
So, lying is a reasonable behavior on the part of cops, but lying to cops is a crime.... You conflate warefare ( a state of nature) with law enforcement/policing. How convenient, as do statist thug throughout history.
This is why many good citizens do not trust anyone in a LE uniform. They act like bad neighbors all too often and have the reward of being considered as such. Only difference is while it may be lawful to defend yourself against the one, it is a capital offense regarding the other....
I support the law, generally. Individual officers of the law and court, not so much, until they prove themselves worthy of civic trust.
Name Rank and Service number then, so be it.
“” “” So, lying is a reasonable behavior on the part of cops, but lying to cops is a crime.... “” “’
Yep, and there is nothing wrong with it.
” “” “This is why many good citizens do not trust anyone in a LE uniform.” “” “
Not true. Law enforcement has a ton of negative aspects attracting a great number of sociopaths engaged in all sorts of despicable behavior. Once again, lying is not one of these. It is part of lawful means and methods.
” “” “I support the law, generally.” “” “
No, you don’t. You are either on a BLM and Antifa side or supports the law. You can’t have it both ways.
” “” “Individual officers of the law and court, not so much, until they prove themselves worthy of civic trust.” “” “
They work within the legal framework imposed by the society upon them. Currently it is closer to a police state which is not to be supported generally but the alternative is much worse. Learn the mistakes, analyze foreign experience and demand your representatives to change for better.
You sir, are the epitome of the statist actor.
If lying, deception and evil in general are your operating principles, then you are the enemy of the people, by whom you derive your (un)just power(s).
So, when is a lair to be assumed to be telling the truth? Never. I guess it is not just the FBI.
You don’t get the idea. Did you serve? What about dumping camouflage for red coat? It is deception after all.
“I doubt the cop will now commit suicide.”
He might. I’ve sent a letter to Hillary Clinton informing her that this cop has indelicate pictures of her at Epstein’s New Mexico ranch.
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Law vs war. One a state of nature, the other a condition of civil order. Can you find Waldo?
Too bad the lines have been erased, it seems.
No, in warfare the principles both have the lawful right to defeat/kill the other. Neither can be condemned for action.
In civil law, neither have the authority to kill the other unless certain conditions have been met.
Yes, I spent my life in the art of warfare. And I know that civil law and warfare are not even in the same category.
Civil Law and Criminal Law aren’t the same. Bad guys are enemies. You don’t file a lawsiut against unidentified robber.
He has to be identified, nabbed and brought to court.
They do their best not a get caught and continue to wage their war on law-abiding citizens.
The OPA says the driver’s friends reported that he grew worried in the days after the crash, thinking that someone possibly died in the wreck.
Less than a week after the crash, his roommate found the man dead in his room.
The OPA says the driver’s friends reported that he grew worried in the days after the crash, thinking that someone possibly died in the wreck.
Less than a week after the crash, his roommate found the man dead in his room.
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Am I being hyper-critical or has there suddently been a rash of reported ‘news stories’ where lines get repeated two or three times per article?
I do find it quite ‘annoying’ as my style of reading makes me go back and see if I hadn’t already read the same sentence...
Just wondering???
Civil law includes criminal and tort law.
You seem to combine war and LE. A very dangerous and constitutionally banned ( no standing Army/Posse comitatus) mixture of a tyrannical system.
I suppose you view LE personnel as non civilians?
Military (Army, AF, on duty reserves & NG) and Naval (USN & USMC, USCG when called) forces are the only non civilian entities in our national structure.
If you are a cop of any sort, you are a civilian.
I, on the other hand, as retired FG officer of the US Army, am not a civilian, with caveats.
I am well aware of the difference between police and the military. I am against militarized police too. If you are to extend your idea you’d say police shouldn’t have guns and resort to violence no matter what too.
Oh, one other point, indeed, the state, on behalf of the people, bring a case or suit against a person, the difference is that in criminal law, the complainant ( on behalf o the state) has the full power, resources and backing of the govt, whereas in civil suit, the plaintiff must prove the case against the respondent on his own dime (unless the state files a civil suit, of course).
Bad guys ( vis a vis civil crime) are enemies? Enemies can be killed w/o pause.
Who deems a person a bad guy? You? The pointy end of the civilian stick? Or maybe a judge (Misdemeanors) or a jury ( felony)?
You watched Magnum Force once too many times- Callahan puts things right, remember?
You are starting to (sic) scare me.
I don’t believe you don’t understand my idea. Not all enemies are to be killed. Criminals are enemies indeed. If you had any idea on what the police work is you wouldn’t argue this way.
Sir, one last reply,
No, we the people for better or worse, have armed cops and empowered them to secure the rights of the people (from those who would abuse others) but remember, the power of the people is the people. Govt exists solely to secure the most rights for the most people, and to (ideally) helps the people sort it out. People have right to arms, govt actors have a power granted to them by the people via legislative act, but no right to arms ( except in a personal manner, even when on duty).
Of course police need arms, and the people need the same arms authorized to LE.
I support LE to the extent they comply with the intent and letter of the law, otherwise they are a danger to liberty just as criminals of any sort.
Do you find it interesting that certain groups of non LE types ( CCWL) have an 8 times less incidence of felony or violent Msd criminality? (TX ST Rifle Assoc)
If you are a COP, then you swore an oath to support and defend the US Constitution and the laws of your state/Jurisdiction.
I do not want to believe that lying, stealing or cheating, or tolerating those who do is a virtue of LE.
Blessings, but no further dialog from this Patriot.
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