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1 posted on 01/11/2020 7:44:35 AM PST by Hojczyk
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All in an effort to turn red states blue.


2 posted on 01/11/2020 7:47:00 AM PST by al_c (Democrats: Party over Common Sense)
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To: Hojczyk

Migration always destroys.


3 posted on 01/11/2020 7:48:31 AM PST by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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I’ve seen MANY calimexico license plates here in my back of the words in Texas and across our beautiful state! They are all heading towards San Antonio and some of the most more cheaper places to live. We even have a billboard that says do not California my beloved Texas! But we’re screwed royally screwed these people do not change their spots overnight they only increase!


4 posted on 01/11/2020 7:48:58 AM PST by RoseofTexas
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To: Hojczyk

We can only hope that the main of the ones migrating are doing so BECAUSE they are fleeing leftist tyranny; and they DO understand and favor clearer thinking, and will bring less leftism with them.

As many fled to The New World from Europe just to find a better, less constrained and tyrannized life, with more opportunity for self-sdvancement.

Let’s hope the Tigers are migrating, and the mice are too fearfull of the unknown, and stay pit.


6 posted on 01/11/2020 7:58:44 AM PST by William of Barsoom (In Omnia, Paratus)
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To: Hojczyk

The republicans and whatever allies they have need to educate these people leaving Blue States why they left and to convince them NOT to bring the same Political beliefs that ruined the States they left.


7 posted on 01/11/2020 8:03:49 AM PST by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: Hojczyk

It’s all explained here (from 2002):
https://www.unz.com/freed/the-suicide-of-marlboro-man-172/

In its entirety:

The Suicide of Marlboro Man
The Price Of Freedom Is Slavery. Sort Of. A Little Anyway

The other days I was reading G. Gordon Liddy’s book of conservative nostalgia, When I Was a Kid, This Was a Free Country. He paints a sunset picture of former times when America was free, farmers could fill in swamps without violating wetland laws, and guns were just guns. People were independent and had character, and made their own economic decisions. The market ruled as it ought, and governmental intrusion was minimal.

The picture is accurate. I lived it. I wish it would come back, which it won’t. It was a world certain to kill itself.

What happens is that, in an independent-minded rural county full of hardy yeomen, the density of population grows, either nearby or at distant points on each side. A highway comes through because the truckers lobby in Washington wants it. Building a highway is A Good Thing, because it represents Progress, and provides jobs for a year.

It also makes the country accessible to the big city fifty miles away. A real-estate developer buys 500 acres along the river from the self-reliant character-filled owner. He does this by offering sums of money that water the farmer’s eyes.

First, 500 houses go up in a bedroom suburb called Brook Dale Manor. A year later, 500 more go up at Dale View Estates. This is A Good Thing, because the character-filled independent now-former farmer is exercising his property rights, and because building the suburb creates jobs. The river now looks ugly as the devil, but this is a wacko issue.

At Safeway corporate headquarters, way off God knows where, the new population shows up as a denser shade of green on a computer screen. A new Safeway goes in along the highway. This is A Good Thing, exemplifying free enterprise in action and creating jobs in construction. Further, Safeway sells cheaper, more varied and, truth be known, better food than the half-dozen mom-and-pop stores in the county, which go out of business.

Soon the mall men in the big city hear of the county. A billion-dollar company has no difficulty in buying out a character-filled, self-reliant farmer who makes less than forty thousand dollars a year. A shopping center arrives with a Wal-Mart. This is A Good Thing, etc. Wal-Mart sells almost everything cheaply.

It also puts most of the stores in the country seat out of business. With them go the restaurants, which no longer have the walk-by traffic previously generated by the stores. With the restaurants goes the sense of community that flourishes in a town with eateries and stores and a town square. But this is granola philosophy, appealing only to meddlesome lefties.

K-Mart arrives, along with, beside the highway, McDonald’s, Arby’s, Roy Rogers, and the other way stations on route to coronary occlusion. Strip development is A Good Thing because it represents the exercise of economic freedom. The county’s commerce is now controlled by distant behemoths to whom the place is the equivalent of a pin on a map.

This is A Good Thing. The jobs in these outlets are secure and comfortable. The independent, character-filled frontiersmen are now low-level chain employees, no longer independent because they can be fired.

A third suburb, Brook Manor View Downs, appears. The displaced urbanites in these eyesores now outnumber the character-filled etcs. They are also smarter, have lawyers among their ranks, and co-operate. They quickly come to control the government of the county.

They want city sewerage, more roads, schools, and zoning. The latter isn’t unreasonable. In a sparsely settled county, a few hogs penned out back and a crumbling Merc on blocks don’t matter. In a quarter-acre yuppie ghetto, they do. Next come leash laws and dog licenses. The boisterous clouds of floppy-eared hounds turn illegal.

Prices go up, as do taxes. The profits of farming and commercial crabbing in the river do not go up. The farmers and fishermen are gradually forced to sell their land to developers, and to go into eight-to-fiving. Unfortunately you cannot simultaneously be character-filled and independent and be afraid of your boss. A hardy self-reliant farmer, when he becomes a security guard at the Gap, is a rented peon. The difference between an independent yeoman and a second-rate handyman is independence.

People make more money, and buy houses in Manor Dale Mews, but have less control over their time, and so no longer build their own barns, wire their houses, and change their own clutch-plates. Prosperity is A Good Thing. Its effect is that the children of the hardy yeoman become dependent on others to change their oil, fix their furnaces, and repair their boats.

The new urban majority are frightened by guns. They don’t hunt, knowing that food comes from Safeway and its newly-arrived competitor, Giant. They do not like independent countrymen, whom they refer to as rednecks, grits, and hillbillies. Hunting makes no sense to them anyway, since the migratory flocks are vanishing with the wetlands.

Truth be told, it isn’t safe to have people firing rifles and shotguns in what is increasingly an appendage of the city. The clout of the newcomers makes it harder for the independent whatevers to let their weapons even be seen in public. The dump is closed to rat-shooting.

The children of the hardy rustics do not do as well in school as the offspring of the commuting infestation, and are slowly marginalized. Crime goes up as social bonds break down. Before, everyone pretty much knew everyone and what his car looked like. Strangers stood out. Teenagers raised hell, but there were limits. Now the anonymity of numbers sets in and, anyway, there’s no community any longer.

And so the rural character-filled county becomes another squishy suburb of pallid yups who can’t put air in their own tires. The rugged rural individualists become cogs in somebody else’s wheel. Their children grow up as libidinous mall monkeys drugging themselves to escape boredom. The county itself is a hideous expanse of garish low-end development . People’s lives are run from afar.

What it comes to is that the self-reliant yeoman’s inalienable right to dispose of his property as he sees fit (which I do not dispute) will generally lead to a developer’s possession of it. The inalienable right to reproduce will result in crowding, which leads to dependency, intrusive government, and loss of local control.

I’d like to live again in Mr. Liddy’s world. Unfortunately it is self-eliminating. Freedom is in the long run inconsistent with freedom, because it is inevitable exercised in ways that engender control. As a species, we just can’t keep our pants up. But it was nice for a while.


9 posted on 01/11/2020 8:04:21 AM PST by cuban leaf (The political war playing out in every country now: Globalists vs Nationalists)
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To: Hojczyk

This is an invasion of the perverts by design...


10 posted on 01/11/2020 8:09:26 AM PST by WKUHilltopper
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Last year...yes in one year...four...yes FOUR of my conservative friends bought property in Idaho. Two will make the move this year..two others down the road.


12 posted on 01/11/2020 8:17:12 AM PST by goodnesswins (Want to know your family genealogy? Run for political office...")
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Some of the people fleeing destructive blue-state taxes and regulations appear to drag their pro-big-government philosophy with them.

I think this is a canard. The people leaving the blue states are often more conservative.

Texas is a case in point. Native Texans voted for native Texan Beto O'Rourke, transplants went for Ted Cruz, exit poll shows.

14 posted on 01/11/2020 8:22:32 AM PST by semimojo
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Californians will brag about how wonderful it is for about a year or two, Then the begin demanding policies they left behind. You’re already seeing it with drag queen story hours in Texas of all places. Future Texans will look back on governor Perry and governor Abbott and damn them both for hustling so hard to bring so many California companies into Texas. It’s literally an example of the capitalist selling the rope to the person who’s going to hang him.


19 posted on 01/11/2020 8:44:45 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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Did Paul Ryan create that tax bill to kill off the Gop.
Its will destroy FL Texas GA and NC .

That tax bill has create a Avalanche of Yankee Dems flooding the south .

Trust me there mostly Dems .

We have rental property and all the bitter /rude / demanding applicants are from NY Mass Maryland and NJ plus some Cali .
Yes Cali are pouring into FL too .Help !
My daughter listens the calls and just rolls her eyes and never calls them back .
Most are middle aged single woman .
The biggest Dem voting block .

God save us ./p>

21 posted on 01/11/2020 8:47:30 AM PST by ncalburt (Gop DC Globalists)
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Bkmk


23 posted on 01/11/2020 8:49:07 AM PST by Impala64ssa (Virtue signalling is no virtue)
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Maybe they are leaving purposely to wreck red states.


27 posted on 01/11/2020 9:05:23 AM PST by miss marmelstein
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“We don’t care how you did it in California”


30 posted on 01/11/2020 9:13:03 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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Some of the people fleeing destructive blue-state taxes and regulations appear to drag their pro-big-government philosophy with them

"Seem" to? What kind of meds is the author on?

These blue state enablers are the bane of civilization. And civilized states are too stupid to realize what it's doing to us in the long run.

My wife stands to inherit 200 acres of farm land in a town I'd never live in. But now............

35 posted on 01/11/2020 9:44:29 AM PST by LouAvul
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The census and ultimately the redistricting is going to be ugly!!!!! I predict that some states won’t be solved by the next census.


36 posted on 01/11/2020 10:11:15 AM PST by napscoordinator (Trump/Hunter, jr for President/Vice President 2016)
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When I moved from Connecticut to Florida, the local Republican Party thought I was a liberal, but I'm more conservative than some of the Republican on the County government.

I believe young folks will be conservative. Don't trust the media saying youth are liberal, liberals are killing their kids with abortions, we are teaching ours to listen and think for themselves...

37 posted on 01/11/2020 11:39:48 AM PST by Deplorable American1776 (Proud to be a DeplorableAmerican with a Deplorable Family...even the dog is, too. :-))
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To: nutmeg

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38 posted on 01/11/2020 11:00:40 PM PST by nutmeg
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