Posted on 01/01/2020 3:31:16 AM PST by ammodotcom
Ping!
How does that differ fro IMR4831?
One of my most accurate hunting loads for my .06 is a compressed load of IMR4831 under a 165gr Partition.
I like the 300 H&H, too. I load mine with a 200gr Partition.
Ditto... From an 86 year old shooter...
One of the great rifle designs of history ...
H4831 short cut, same as H4831 but smaller, shorter grains....same burn rate but meters much better.
In my 98 Mauser hunting rifle, I like 180 Partitions and H4350.
In the M70 Pre64 300 H&H, I like H4350 and a 200 partition.
I am partial to Hodgdon Extreme powders- they really do not vary much with temperature, while IMR versions indeed vary quite a bit with temperature.
I too, use my NMM1 for NRA & CMP HighPower. but full course and an occasional 8-9 and 1K match.
I use 155s for 2-300 and 175s or 190s for 600, 190s for the longer stuff.
Stout charges of 4064 etc really can make the 30 cal M1 match conditioned rifle really sing.
The Garand can take the heat. Many folks just don’t want to shoot and repair their antique. I have acquired a decent compliment of spare parts for the two I have. I often have sold a win 31 or some such rare part to pay for a new barrel or bolt or whatever I think need.
Thanks for that. I’ll look at the H powders. I have used that IMR since I started loading but I’m open to something better.
Ironic that the M1 ball round, originally developed in the 1920s to counter poor long-range ballistics when used in machine guns, had an almost insignificant service life. Granted, it was resurrected in the 1950s as the M72 match cartridge, but still....
Interesting information. Thanks.
Happy New Year!
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Indeed. The M1 round kinda out performed the rifle ranges so the Army developed the M2 150 grn flat based bullet. Much milder round. Interesting factoid is that WW2 saw common use of the AP round for most combat use.
Most all anyone could desire about the Garand and it’s ammo is found in the iconic tome, “Hatcher’s Notebook”.
The venerable M1903 holds a place in my safe, as does it’s offspring, the 03A3 &A4.
I’m going to have to take them out tommorow now that we discussed them all.
Hold it tight enough, it’s not so bad.
And nothing says “back off” quite as well as that 165 grain projectile moving at 2,700 ft/sec.
Y’all have been very encouraging. I’ve been thinking Ruger Mini-14...maybe it should be an M-1. Thanks!
A great choice as well... One of my favorites... So gentle that I've got a 10-year-old great grandson who can handle one with no problem...
Re: the Mini-14...
I’ve got a fair amount of .223/5.56 (thank you, Barack). The Ruger just looks like a fun way to burn some of that up.
Folks keep trying. Problem is, the cartridge case is more than just a container for the propellant; it has other functions, as well, including protecting the propellant, holding the primer in a specific position, etc. Ever had hot brass drop down your shirt collar? Brass (or steel) cases act as "heat sinks"; when ejected, they remove heat from the weapon (and hopefully deposit that heat on the ground, rather than inside your shirt ;^). I've read that military weapons using caseless ammo often have a major problem with cartridges "cooking off" when the weapon gets hot.
(FWIW - just posted the above for general discussion purposes; for all I know, you're a professional who's written reference books on the subject! ;^)
Hardly a professional.
Just a gun nut since childhood.
You’re right about the heat-sink aspect. Also the expansion of the case seals the chamber through obturation and that’s hard to get around.
But, a guy can dream, can’t he?
Absolutely - and you have excellent company (John Moses Browning was a very prolific 'dreamer'! ;^)...
As we’re fond of saying around here, “If John Browning didn’t invent it, you don’t need it”.
A lot of truth in that! For a long time, I had a view of cartridges that was somewhat similar. Seemed like there was a new 'wiz-bang-wonder-cartridge' being introduced every month, and I kind of decided, "if it hasn't been around for 50 years yet, I probably don't need it." Haven't really been tempted to try that 'new' 6.5 Creedmoor, but it's basically the .250 Savage Improved (necked up 0.007" ;^), so even that might fit the bill!
;^)
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