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I Ran 8 Half Marathons. Then, at 38, I Had a Stroke.
Runner's World ^ | December 27, 2019 | Laura Pugh, as told to Peter Moore

Posted on 12/31/2019 4:59:52 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

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To: spel_grammer_an_punct_polise
Paraphrased because I do not remember his exact quote: “The heart has an finite number of beats to it. I’ll be damned if I am going to use mine up running down some damn street.” - Neil Armstong

I only found,

I believe that every human has a finite number of heartbeats," the famous quote goes. "I don't intend to waste any of mine running around doing exercises."

Contrary to what you might have heard, Neil Armstrong never said this. What's more, he disagreed with it. But as much as it's a misattribution, was Armstrong right to argue?

 

The simplest answer is 'yes'. There is no strict tally for your ticker, keeping track of your pulse until you've used up your allocation of beats. So get out and exercise (after you've finished reading this article, of course).https://www.sciencealert.com/relationship-between-heart-beat-and-life-expectancy

61 posted on 12/31/2019 7:53:59 PM PST by daniel1212 ( Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
No mention if she was ever checked for PFO, which should be mandatory for migraines episodes.

"patent foramen ovale (PFO)"

An opening between heart chambers that is supposed to heal after birth. In about 25% it does not, and increases the risk of stroke in later life. Dislodged plague can cross from venous to arterial side and cause brain blockages.

62 posted on 12/31/2019 7:57:05 PM PST by doorgunner69 (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading - T Jefferson)
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To: Responsibility2nd
She would have blown out her knees by age 50 anyway. I cannot imagine why people think running is so healthy.

I would laugh, but not at his expense.

One of my younger brothers that took up marathon type running in his late 30-40's recently had to have both hip joints replaced.

Genetics or pounding, who knows?

63 posted on 12/31/2019 8:01:04 PM PST by doorgunner69 (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading - T Jefferson)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Gee, not a word about all the coke and crank she was doing...


64 posted on 12/31/2019 8:29:14 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: coaster123

Lemon ?? I need that help. Will research. If you have any info, please share.

THanks


65 posted on 12/31/2019 8:54:43 PM PST by onona
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To: Capt. Tom

I had a stroke 11 years ago. It was caused by a small hole in my heart that we didn’t find out about until after the stroke.

I left me with seizures.


66 posted on 12/31/2019 9:38:27 PM PST by muggs
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

My beautiful daughter in law (physically fit, ideal weight, exercises regularly, non-smoker, no alcohol or drugs) had a stroke at age 35. Thank God the effects were relatively mild, and have cleared up! Has had migraines since her teens. It was discovered she is missing a vertebral artery on one side of her brain, and it caused her to stroke, and most likely, causes the migraines. High stress job of high school therapeutic counselor for troubled teens. Carries a lot on her shoulders.


67 posted on 12/31/2019 10:08:41 PM PST by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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To: daniel1212

“Neil Armstrong never said this”

I do not remember the year. Neil Armstrong was the subject of a ‘special’ on TV. It was mostly about his flying gliders after his retirement. He said closely what I paraphrased. I heard it with my own ears.

As an aside, I, for one, am of his opinion. I do not want to use up my beats exercising.


68 posted on 12/31/2019 10:47:01 PM PST by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; All
What we are hearing here are anecdotal stories of stokes and heart attacks from running, when in fact, these type of health-related episodes are usually genetic, caused from family heredity. IOW, it "runs" in the family.

Jim Fixx famously died while running but the entire male membership of his family died very young and they didn't run at all. It "ran" in his family.

I was a long distance runner, 10k racer and marathon runner when I was younger. When I developed heart problems in my early 60s, I asked my docs how could that be? I didn't drink or smoke, was lean and exercised. Their response was that my whole family had high blood pressure and both my parents died of congestive heart failure. It "runs" in the family. My running just prolonged the inevitable.

Same with joint problems. I had both knees replaced at age 62, the exact same age my dad had both of his replaced and he never exercised or ran a day in his life. It "runs" in the family.

So before we assume the running is what caused most of the ills in these anecdotal stories, one's family history of heart attacks and stokes needs to be factored into the story.

Just because there are these stories of runners having heart attacks or strokes while running, remember, there are also hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of stories of runners who never experience these type problems.

At age 63, I had a quadruple bypass open heart surgery. I recovered and now I walk daily on advice of my cardiologist. He said the running was not necessarily the problem but the lack of aerobic conditioning would be if I didn't get my ass moving again after surgery.

So at age 72, I remain active and work daily on my cattle farm. I would have had heart problems and joint problems , no matter what I did when I was younger, because it "runs" in the family.

69 posted on 01/01/2020 12:35:00 AM PST by HotHunt (Been there. Done that.)
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To: tflabo

Glad she made a recovery. If the stroke is caught in time the ER gives the drug tPA.


70 posted on 01/01/2020 2:23:17 AM PST by gattaca ("Government's first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives." Ronald Reagan)
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To: ImNotLying

Yep - Jim Fixx decided that if some aerobic exercise was good, then the more the better - always pushing harder...he also had a history that took its toll before he got into running.


71 posted on 01/01/2020 3:55:59 AM PST by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: HotHunt

Thanks!


72 posted on 01/01/2020 4:01:56 AM PST by MD Expat in PA (No. I am not a doctor nor have I ever played one on TV. The MD in my screen name stands for Maryland)
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To: ThisLittleLightofMine

How much lemon juice, please? And at mealtimes, or on an empty stomach?


73 posted on 01/01/2020 7:14:13 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: muggs
I had a stroke 11 years ago. It was caused by a small hole in my heart that we didn’t find out about until after the stroke.
I left me with seizures.

There are many causes if strokes and I bet a lot are misdiagnosed.

I was in one hospital and they concluded they would operate on my right caroid artery.
They made a black square on my chest and put in some writing for the surgeon.

I refused, and said I only wanted to be operated on by a certain surgeon at another Hospital.

At 10 PM by amulance they took me to the other hospital.
A team of doctors checked me out, and at 1:30 AM , they said they would not recommnd surgery in the morning because my right carotid artery was only 60% blocked and would not cause me to lose my left side and since I was loosing vision in my left eye also the left eye side problem is not caused by right side brain problems, there is something else wrong with me.

Eventually they found above my heart the distribution system got plugged when my high blood pressure sheared off the linings of the veins and arterys there.
That is inoperable and so they got my blood pressure down and eventually months later, I got back to normal.

I hope you can deal with your seizures and at least get a warning when they are coming. Injuries in falling are another factor in strokes.

Wishing you the best.-Tom

74 posted on 01/01/2020 7:57:57 AM PST by Capt. Tom
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To: HotHunt

I think everyone understands all that.

It’s not about running/exercise CAUSING the events.

It is that it DOES NOT HELP prevent them.

Health nuts are pushing this stuff constantly (and making good money on it) but it seems it is NOT a cure-all.


75 posted on 01/01/2020 8:16:31 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs)
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To: coaster123
Lemon juice also lowers cholesterol.

Also, lemon may taste acidic, but it converts to alkali once it mixes with digestive juices.

76 posted on 01/01/2020 12:11:26 PM PST by Albion Wilde (It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it. --Douglas MacArthur)
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To: HotHunt

I hear you. Fortunately, I post these stories not to warn people against running. I love running (but my arthritic knees and weak ankles do “run in the family”). I post these stories because they’re inspirational. These people overcome their conditions, no matter what the actual causes, and get back to doing the running that they love.


77 posted on 01/01/2020 4:16:13 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Show me the people who own the land, the guns and the money, and I'll show you the people in charge.)
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To: Mariner

And you know she was doing those things how?


78 posted on 01/01/2020 4:19:28 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Show me the people who own the land, the guns and the money, and I'll show you the people in charge.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I loved running when I was younger and could do it. Two replacement knees and age forces me to walk daily now instead.


79 posted on 01/01/2020 7:30:17 PM PST by HotHunt (Been there. Done that.)
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To: Capt. Tom
I had a spontaneous carotid artery dissection in 2004 at age 50. I had stage 1 hypertension at the time. They weren’t sure why it happened but one of the possible theories was hyperextension of the neck (after painting my office walls) and/or a virus had weakened my arterial wall (I had just had a really strange cold).

My symptoms were mainly a one-sided headache for a day and then a week of pulsatile tinnitus whereby I could hear every heartbeat loudly in my left ear, so much that I couldn’t sleep at night. After 3 days of that, I sought treatment. It took 5 days of tests before I was sent to the ER, after which I spent a day at Barrow Neurological Institute.

At Barrow, multiple doctors kept parading into my room to look at me because I didn’t show any signs of typical stroke impairment like Horner’s sign. They finally determined that my symptoms were caused when one of 3 layers in my carotid artery had been torn and a blood clot had formed which created a blockage. I was put on Plavix for 6 months and it never recurred.

80 posted on 01/02/2020 4:20:48 PM PST by Prince of Space (WhereÂ’s Hunter?)
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