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To: DiogenesLamp
The money men underpinning the North's need for war had no interest in making a spectacle of themselves. Indeed, they preferred to skulk around in shadows and hope nobody noticed their hand in things.

Which means you don't have any quotes from Southerners all complaining about how they farmed out their business to the North. Figures.

969 posted on 01/23/2020 9:00:53 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

“Which means you don’t have any quotes from Southerners all complaining about how they farmed out their business to the North.”

Here is one.

We are a peculiar people, sir! You don’t understand us, and you can’t understand us, because we are known to you only by Northern writers and Northern papers, who know nothing of us themselves, or misrepresent what they do know. We are an agricultural people; we are a primitive but a civilized people. We have no cities—we don’t want them, have no literature—we don’t need any yet. We have no press—we are glad of it. We do not require a press, because we go out and discuss all public questions from the stump with our people. We have no commercial marine—no navy—we don’t want them. We are better without them. Your ships carry our produce, and you can protect your own vessels. We want no manufactures: we desire no trading, no mechanical or manufacturing classes. As long as we have our rice, our sugar, our tobacco, and our cotton, we can command wealth to purchase all we want from those nations with which we are in amity, and to lay up money besides.”
Texas Senator Louis T. Wigfall


971 posted on 01/23/2020 9:35:55 AM PST by Bull Snipe
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To: DoodleDawg
Which means you don't have any quotes from Southerners all complaining about how they farmed out their business to the North.

I've seen such quotes, but I never thought to keep up with where I found them. The economic numbers paint a picture clear enough for anyone to see who is willing to see it. Anecdotes aren't necessary, though they reinforce the same point as the economic data.

You can find such quotes in some of the southern newspapers of the day. You can also find quotes about the economic cost to the North of Southern independence from various Northern newspapers of the day.

My recollection is that you are unimpressed with newspaper quotes of this era.

984 posted on 01/23/2020 1:33:43 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no oither sovereignty.")
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