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To: HandyDandy; BroJoeK; jeffersondem; DiogenesLamp; rockrr; DoodleDawg

>>Kalamata wrote: “Prior to Lincoln ramming Nazi-style central planning down our throats, the Supreme Court did not have such awesome power.
>>HandyDandy wrote: “Once you play the “Nazi” card, you have lost the argument. House rules.”

Let’s try a different house rule: once you play the Rebellion Card, you have lost the argument.

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>>HandyDandy wrote: “Also, if you really believe that the SCOTUS did not have “such awesome power” pre Lincoln, I would turn your attention to Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, Roger B. (The Loon) Taney. He had ruled from the bench that the blacks had not been considered as citizens at the time of the Constitution, were not then citizens, and could never be citizens. Within a couple of years all Hell broke loose.”

I didn’t say they had no power; but before Lincoln’s destruction of the separation of powers, the separation was still somewhat in effect, under which the President had just as much right (and power) to interpret the constitution as the Supreme Court. He could also reject any ruling of the Supreme Court’s if he deemed their ruling was unconstitutional.

Lincoln took that to another level in that he gave himself the right to reject any ruling, whether or not it was constitutional, as in the case of Taney’s opinion against Lincoln’s usurpation of the power over habeas corpus.

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>>HandyDandy wrote: “Talk about “crony capitalism” and someone being in the back pocket of The Slave Power. Look no further than the Chief Justice of the SCOTUS in 1857. Brush up on the Dred Scott Decision. It is why Taney was Lincoln’s nemesis. It is also why, after swearing in Lincoln, Taney had to sit through a tongue lashing during Abe’s First Inaugural.”

Are you kidding? Lincoln not only expressed his support for the Fugitive Slave Law in the first inaugural, but declared it constitutional. Frankly, I have read nothing (without cherry-picking) that would make me believe Lincoln cared a whit about the plight of slaves, or blacks generally. I see the slavery issue as another one of Lincoln’s political tools, as does his political descendants: the democrats of today.

I seem to recall that Lincoln’s disagreements with Taney were possibly related to Taney’s part in killing the National Bank. Lincoln was an ardent supporter of a national bank and paper currency, in the mold of Henry Clay. Have you heard or read anything like that?

Mr. Kalamata


651 posted on 01/14/2020 12:34:20 AM PST by Kalamata (BIBLE RESEARCH TOOLS: http://bibleresearchtools.com/)
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To: Kalamata
I seem to recall that Lincoln’s disagreements with Taney were possibly related to Taney’s part in killing the National Bank. Lincoln was an ardent supporter of a national bank and paper currency, in the mold of Henry Clay. Have you heard or read anything like that?

The more I learn of this period of history when Jackson killed the national bank, the more I realize that Jackson was a lot smarter than I had previously given him credit for being.

Jackson rightfully recognized the threat that these manipulators of money could represent. The shame is that the National Bank didn't stay dead.

Where there is an opportunity to make unearned money, the corrupt will always find a way to exploit it.

662 posted on 01/14/2020 6:36:57 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no oither sovereignty.")
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