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Charles Blow Op-ed in the NY Times: The Horrible History of Thanksgiving
New York Times ^ | 11/25/2019 | Charles M. Blow

Posted on 12/04/2019 9:40:00 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: RedStateRocker

> There has not, to my knowledge, been a single instance where the more advanced civilization didn’t utterly depredate and essentially annihilate a more primitive one when the two have come in contact. <

Excellent point. Ruthless conquest was not just a white thing. It was THE thing back in those days.

And it’s interesting to see how liberals selectively apply 21st century morality to things that happened hundreds of years ago. It’s just odd that they never mention how the Aztecs enslaved their neighbors, or how the Incas did the same.


21 posted on 12/04/2019 11:03:36 AM PST by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: SeekAndFind
These are the same people who thing Islam is a "religion" of peace.

22 posted on 12/04/2019 11:11:52 AM PST by Right Wing Assault (Kill-googl,TWTR,FCBK,NYT,WaPo,Hwd,CNN,NFL,BLM,CAIR,Antfa,SPLC,ESPN,NPR,NBA,ARP)
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To: SeekAndFind
Charles, several Indian tribes told me they want you to move in with them. Give me a call and I can give you their emails.

23 posted on 12/04/2019 11:15:24 AM PST by Right Wing Assault (Kill-googl,TWTR,FCBK,NYT,WaPo,Hwd,CNN,NFL,BLM,CAIR,Antfa,SPLC,ESPN,NPR,NBA,ARP)
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To: SeekAndFind
Charles BlowHard must have celebrated "Unthanksgiving Day" with Colin KrapInHisPants.

Their schtick is trashing America. 🤮

What's next?

Telling children that Santa Claus isn't real but make-believe?

24 posted on 12/04/2019 11:28:18 AM PST by HotHunt (Been there. Done that.)
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s a real shame a strong and good nation was in place to destroy the Nazis, Soviet Union, countless diseases, invent gadget after gadget and walk on the moon. The world would sure be a better place without that country, right leftists lunatics?


25 posted on 12/04/2019 11:37:55 AM PST by Midwesterner53
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To: Daffynition

Well, at least he has perfected his “angry black man” face!

He is “authentic” to the core! Down for the struggle!

How about just being a normal human being, someone people of all “persuasions” can sit down with and talk about life, love, friends, family and how nice the weather has been lately.

Loosen up, Bro!!


26 posted on 12/04/2019 11:53:56 AM PST by BwanaNdege ( Experience is the best teacher, but if you can accept it 2nd hand, the tuition is less!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Blow worships at the temple of Howard Zinn.


27 posted on 12/04/2019 12:00:22 PM PST by Renkluaf
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To: SeekAndFind

Always reminds me of a comedian I saw once riffing on names...
Does Bob Merritt?
Is Greg Strong?
Does Charles Blow?
And what about Olivia Newton’s John?


28 posted on 12/04/2019 1:24:32 PM PST by gnickgnack2 ( Another bad day for Trump, he only got seven major things accomplished .)
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To: SeekAndFind

The Black Death.


29 posted on 12/04/2019 2:31:02 PM PST by Redmen4ever (u)
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To: Redmen4ever

RE: The Black Death.

Well, chicken and egg question.

Did the black death originate from China, or from Europe?

If the former, how do we know? Is it the case that the West never knew of a black death plague BEFORE contact with China or vice versa?


30 posted on 12/04/2019 2:45:33 PM PST by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: Daffynition

Dude’s beard is BLUE! Wadduhellisdat??

Not a wrinkle on his hateful face and he has a bluebeard. Mebbe he’s been stealin’ some lil’ ol’ lady’s hair dye.

Electric BLUE.


31 posted on 12/04/2019 2:54:07 PM PST by mywholebodyisaweapon (Thank God for President Trump.)
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To: SeekAndFind

According to many, the black death originated in central Asia and was transmitted to Europe via ship-borne rats. This is supported by the outbreak first occurring in port cities and working its way inland.

There is speculation about the disease originating in climate change, Mongol invasion and volcanic activity. It is difficult to sort this out as compared to determining the outbreak and then spread of the disease in Europe.

More fundamentally, the various people of the Eurasian land mass, being in contact with each, enjoyed certain benefits and suffered various harms, as compared to a relatively isolated people such as the Native Americans. The Eurasians had iron, the wheel and large domesticated animals, among other things, because of larger numbers, knowledge transfer, and more varied agricultural and mineral resources.

We also suffered from the spread of contagious diseases, regardless of origin, and so developed immunities to many of them (which is not to say that Europeans could deal with the diseases of sub Sahara Africa).


32 posted on 12/04/2019 3:03:13 PM PST by Redmen4ever (u)
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To: SeekAndFind

What we’ve all been taught is a part of the history: The Pilgrims came, they almost starved, the Indians taught them how to survive, and they had a big feast. All true. But it’s the tip of the iceberg.

The Puritans were being persecuted in Britain by the Church of England. They decided to get out. They first went to the Netherlands. After several years there, they decided to go to the New World for religious liberty.

They found some sponsors for their journey, who made William Bradford, their leader, sign a contract. It provided that every Pilgrim would get one share in a common store and they would all work for the community. (They would own nothing and be happy.)

They arrived at Plymouth Rock in 1620. Between the journey and that harsh first winter, about 44 of the original 100 settlers died. Including Governor Bradford’s wife.

The Native Americans taught them how to plant corn and fish, but according to Governor Bradford’s notes, even the most industrious didn’t work very hard at it. After all, why work so hard when you’re only going to get the same amount as the ones who don’t? Why expend all that effort for other people’s families when they’re not willing to expend the effort for themselves? So Governor Bradford changed the system.

Bradford assigned each family a plot of land and told them to work it as they saw fit, and they could keep the proceeds or trade it or sell it or give it away, if they chose. (Does this sound familiar?)

Well, they thrived. They produced an abundance of food and goods. Probably more than they could figure out what to do with. In gratitude to God, they had a big community feast to use and share all they had produced, and they invited the Indigenous to thank them for their help (and as a gesture of friendship.)

The original system in which everyone worked for the collective failed. It almost starved them to death. The new system, which incentivized producing as much as you wanted, produced an abundance they had to share.

Accordingly, one of the things I am grateful for today is Governor Bradford’s decision to abandon the failing collectivism of the original Compact and adopt a system based on incentive, which gave rise to an abundance we still enjoy.


33 posted on 11/23/2023 7:10:08 PM PST by TBP (Decent people cannot fathom the amoral cruelty of the Biden regime.)
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