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Teens from China's wealthiest regions rank top of the class in global education survey
CNN ^ | 12/03/2019 | Joshua Berlinger

Posted on 12/03/2019 2:52:21 PM PST by SeekAndFind

Teens from some of China's wealthiest regions are outperforming their peers in the world's richest countries in reading, math and science, according to new results from a global education study.

The survey found that 15-year-old students from Beijing, Shanghai, and the eastern provinces of Jiangsu and Zhejiang ranked top for all three core subjects, achieving the highest level 4 rating.

Students from the United States were ranked level 3 for reading and science, and level 2 for math, while teens from Britain scored a level 3 ranking in all three categories.

The findings are part of the 2018 Program International Student Assessment (PISA) -- a global yardstick of education systems taken every three years by the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD), a grouping of the world's richest economies.

Singapore took top spot in the 2015 survey and placed second this year, though the difference in its score compared to the four regions of China was not considered "statistically significantly different," according to the study.

China's success in the survey is likely to come under question due to the fact that only four of the country's wealthiest areas were surveyed -- meaning that the results don't accurately represent the tens of millions of students living in other parts of the country, especially rural areas.

In 2012, PISA's results were heavily criticized for only including students in Shanghai as the sole representative of mainland China, a country of more than a billion people.

The next survey in 2015 was broadened to include four provinces and cities -- Shanghai, Beijing, Jiangsu and Guangdong. China still performed well that year, but its scores were down across the board compared to the previous survey, when only Shanghai students were surveyed.

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TOPICS: Education; Society
KEYWORDS: pisa; testscores; wealth
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The Shanghai exam results have previously come under fire for shutting out the city's migrant children and not being representative of the city's total student population, which the OECD denies.

Angel Gurria, the secretary-general of the OECD, said in the latest report's preface that the performance of the four Chinese regions was impressive, as their income levels were below the OECD average.

"These four provinces/municipalities in eastern China are far from representing China as a whole, but the size of each of them compares to that of a typical OECD country, and their combined populations amount to over 180 million," he said.

1 posted on 12/03/2019 2:52:21 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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2 posted on 12/03/2019 2:54:29 PM PST by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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I read an interesting theory recently that the high test scores of Asian students don’t seem to be indicative of performance in adult life. In other words, they might be smart, and good at taking tests, when they’re kids and teens, but lose that edge as they pass into college and on into adulthood, where western Europeans outpace them in things like innovation and raw cognitive power.

So while eastern Asian kids might top the scores on standardized tests, it’s not the end-all for their performance in the real world. The ethnic group that has shown the highest real-world, cutting-edge performance is currently under siege as being all around terrible for civilization and the planet in general.


3 posted on 12/03/2019 3:00:58 PM PST by Little Pig
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From the last paragraphs...
“…in the past, students could find clear and singular answers to their questions in carefully curated and government-approved textbooks, and they could trust those answers to be true. Today, they will find hundreds of thousands of answers to their questions online, and it is up to them to figure out what is true and what is false, what is right and what is wrong," the report said.

Fewer than one in 10 students surveyed in the OECD countries could "distinguish between fact and opinion, based on implicit cues pertaining to the content or source of the information," the report said.

The only areas in which more than one in seven students demonstrated the ability to distinguish fact from opinion were the four parts of China, Canada, Estonia, Finland, Singapore and the United States.

There you have it...we were all a lot more educated with “carefully curated and government-approved textbooks.”
4 posted on 12/03/2019 3:01:37 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: SeekAndFind

I wonder how much higher the US would place on that list if we weren’t burdened with two large demographics of underperforming students not present in any other country in the top 20.

Sort of like how the US is somewhere near the top of the list in gun violence, but if you exclude the cities of DC, New Orleans, St Louis, Detroit, and Chicago from the gun violence stats we drop to 4th or 5th from the bottom.


5 posted on 12/03/2019 3:05:24 PM PST by Little Pig
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The test is administered to a sample of students

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Programme_for_International_Student_Assessment#Sampling

Do you think that the Chinese sample is a totally random representative sample?


6 posted on 12/03/2019 3:08:38 PM PST by FewsOrange
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To: SeekAndFind

Pop Quiz:

Besides being self-made billionaires, what do Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Larry Ellison, and Mark Zuckerberg have in common?

Answer: They are all college dropouts.


7 posted on 12/03/2019 3:22:20 PM PST by beancounter13
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Chinese students rank really high here too. I wonder why...


8 posted on 12/03/2019 3:24:23 PM PST by aquila48 (Do not let them make you care!)
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“The ethnic group that has shown the highest real-world, cutting-edge performance is currently under siege as being all around terrible for civilization and the planet in general.”

Yep. That’s a great case for separation. Since we’re so bad they should be quite happy if we go our own way and they theirs.


9 posted on 12/03/2019 3:30:20 PM PST by aquila48 (Do not let them make you care!)
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Wealth and high test scores correlate. Not news.


10 posted on 12/03/2019 3:35:21 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: SeekAndFind

If they’re good little robots they’ll get to go to an American University where the beer is cold and the girls are hot.


11 posted on 12/03/2019 3:55:45 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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Chinese rate, on average, 6 points higher than Whites on IQ tests. But...there are others.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenazi_Jewish_intelligence


12 posted on 12/03/2019 4:08:10 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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Yes, but how do they rank in important things like racial and gender diversity and LGBTQI sensitivity and acceptance? (/sarc)


13 posted on 12/03/2019 4:24:23 PM PST by kaehurowing
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They are genetically more intelligent, study hard, don’t study 57 genders & privilege & have good family values. The future is theirs.


14 posted on 12/03/2019 4:26:44 PM PST by Trumpisourlastchance
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Wealthy parents in China try to get their children out of communist China to any western country they can, because they love them. It’s also why Hong Kong is putting up such a fight. They don’t want to end up in communist China either.


15 posted on 12/03/2019 4:26:58 PM PST by Reeses (A journey of a thousand miles begins with a government pat down.)
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To: aquila48

Chinese kids in my kid’s private school excel at math & science, outperforming the children of white doctors, lawyers & business people. Their parents make them study & they value achievement.


16 posted on 12/03/2019 4:32:08 PM PST by Trumpisourlastchance
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Legal immigrants to the USA still tend to be above average. Illegal immigrants, not so much.


17 posted on 12/03/2019 4:35:37 PM PST by Reeses (A journey of a thousand miles begins with a government pat down.)
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To: Little Pig

I worked at a mine in Indonesia. The Americans said the Indonesian engineers were very book smart and could recite the equation from memory. But they didn’t have the problem-solving ability to use them in the real world. The one American called them “automotons” or something.

One day I saw these three Indonesians popping the hood on their overheated Toyota, steam rushing out of the hood. The one guy is just about to put his bare hand on the radiator cap and I yelled out “Bahiyha” which means danger. He stopped, and then I walked over there to explain that it was super hot.

Turns out he was a lead engineer!

I’ve seen similar stupid things from the Chinese.


18 posted on 12/03/2019 4:43:01 PM PST by 21twelve (!)
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Chinese rate, on average, 6 points higher than Whites on IQ tests.

Mixed children have a wider bell curve than normal but on average have an IQ half way between their parents, evidence of a genetic component. That's probably also true for non-mixed children but with a narrower bell curve.

19 posted on 12/03/2019 5:05:18 PM PST by Reeses (A journey of a thousand miles begins with a government pat down.)
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The problem with that is, they cannot tolerate the idea of our simple existence. They would never allow us the courtesy of establishing our own nation. To them, we’re so reprehensible, such anathema, that the only satisfactory solution is the same “final” solution that socialists always resort to: the boxcar trip.


20 posted on 12/03/2019 7:26:42 PM PST by Little Pig
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