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9 dead in plane crash in South Dakota
abc ^ | 11/30/2019 | Justin Doom

Posted on 11/30/2019 8:29:22 PM PST by BenLurkin

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To: nuconvert

I turned pale just riding in a Cessna to see the Grand Canyon in what I guess were normal wind conditions.

Some private tour.

A person I went with who has a VERY irrational fear of being in a car going anywhere was FINE with the ride.

Go figure.


21 posted on 11/30/2019 9:34:50 PM PST by dp0622 (Radicals, racists Don't point fingers at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin' to make ends meet)
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To: Zuriel

That occurred to me as well. Impatience I mean. There is a natural impulse once off the runway to immediately go up and gain speed. The two don’t mix.


22 posted on 11/30/2019 9:35:42 PM PST by Telepathic Intruder
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To: Secret Agent Man

It was a bad decision on the pilots part. If it was a small airport the pilot didn’t need permission. He just made a very bad call.


23 posted on 11/30/2019 10:00:48 PM PST by oldenuff35
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To: BenLurkin

RIP.


24 posted on 11/30/2019 10:13:26 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Dear Mr. Kotter, #Epsteindidntkillhimself - Signed, Epstein's Mother)
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To: BenLurkin

Reminds me of “The Day The Music Died”.

Buddy Holley, The Big Hopper, Richie Valens.

On February 3, 1959, American rock and roll musicians Buddy Holly, Ritchie Valens, and “The Big Bopper” J. P. Richardson were killed in a plane crash near Clear Lake, Iowa, together with pilot Roger Peterson.


25 posted on 11/30/2019 10:14:25 PM PST by Signalman
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To: Signalman

The Big Bopper.


26 posted on 11/30/2019 10:15:13 PM PST by Signalman
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To: Don W

You’d think ‘single engine’ would make it clear enough.


27 posted on 11/30/2019 10:22:59 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: piasa

Only an aviation fan or mechanical worker is likely to recognize that.


28 posted on 11/30/2019 10:38:51 PM PST by Don W (When blacks riot, neighbourhoods and cities burn. When whites riot, nations and continents burn.)
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To: null and void

Im sure he meant 5 bladed prop set up.


29 posted on 11/30/2019 10:43:23 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: Zuriel

Yep


30 posted on 11/30/2019 10:44:46 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: Signalman

I dont think the pilot was instrument qualified and the conditions were crap.


31 posted on 11/30/2019 10:47:28 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: BenLurkin

I lived in Chamberlain and Fort Thompson for most of the 90’s. Worked at Mid Dakota Hospital. Knew the community well. My heart aches. Prayers to all affected.


32 posted on 11/30/2019 11:28:08 PM PST by tomatomaster (South Dakota plane crash)
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To: Don W; Deaf Smith

Yeah, I mean I’ve flown plenty on plenty of jets and turbo props but, never heard of a “Five Prop” plane.

I would have wondered what plane has four props on the wings and one on the nose, which would seem weird as the only other planes I’ve flown on have are two prop turbos...


33 posted on 11/30/2019 11:32:56 PM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB0ndRzaz2o)
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To: Signalman

Reminds me of the scene in “Con Air”.

Lynard Skinner “Irony”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9ygaj8eSls&feature=emb_logo

A bunch of idiots dancing to a song made famous by a band that died in a plane crash...


34 posted on 11/30/2019 11:38:45 PM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB0ndRzaz2o)
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To: Steely Tom

The Pilatus is a very competent design, and excellent for low speed operation. RIP.


35 posted on 11/30/2019 11:56:00 PM PST by Does so (.Democrats only believe in democracy when they win the election...)
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To: HANG THE EXPENSE

No instrument rating in that weather, and no commercial rating? I doubt it but if true they were all on a suicide mission. Also Pilatus is a turboprop, I don’t think there are many tuboprop rated pilots without an instrument ticket. Gethereitis gets my vote.


36 posted on 12/01/2019 2:59:02 AM PST by VTenigma (The Democrat party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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To: Does so

My observation is a majority of such crashes occur in bad weather.
Definitely pilot error.Error in trying to fly in those conditions. Probably a little too much pilot ego

Sometimes the pilot truly is at fault.


37 posted on 12/01/2019 2:59:34 AM PST by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: hoosierham; SkyDancer; taildragger
Probably a little too much pilot ego

While there are some pilots with big egos, even those have a very healthy appreciation for the power of God's weather. All it takes is some experience with it, and you learn pretty quick that bad weather is not something to take lightly. It will scare the hell out of you, and give you nightmares later on.

I don't know if this aircraft was a charter for hire, or if the aircraft was privately owned and the passengers were friends and family.

I know of zero pilots who relish flying in white out, blizzard conditions because it assuages their ego.

Every commercial pilot has to engage bad weather - it's part of the job. You can't avoid it. The weather is not always calm and sunny. In fact, most time it isn't.

The times I had to push when I didn't want to were frequent - and they were driven by outside factor beyond my control.

But I highly suspect that the NTSB will rule that pilot error and weather were the prime causes of this crash.

38 posted on 12/01/2019 3:33:46 AM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: BenLurkin

Pilatus PC-12

Strong wind and snow

Uh, no thanks, I’ll wait

39 posted on 12/01/2019 3:37:45 AM PST by csvset (tolerance becomes a crime when attached to evil)
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To: Signalman

“The Big Hopper”

Lol. Is that what you call the Easter bunny?


40 posted on 12/01/2019 3:49:45 AM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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