Posted on 11/29/2019 5:17:25 AM PST by Openurmind
In the last few days, media talking heads have been saying the word "CrowdStrike" a lot, defining it as a wild conspiracy theory originating in Moscow. They were joined by Chris Wallace at Fox News, who informed us that president Trump and his ill-informed fans believe in a crazy idea that the DNC wasn't hacked by the Russians but by some Ukrainian group named CrowdStrike that stole the DNC server and brought it to Ukraine , and that it was Ukraine that meddled in our 2016 election and not Russia.
A crazy idea indeed. Except that neither Trump nor his fans had ever heard of it until the Democrat-media complex condescendingly informed them that these are their beliefs.
Let's look at the facts:
Fact 1. In 2016 the DNC hired the Ukrainian-owned firm CrowdStrike to analyze their server and investigate a data breach.
Fact 2. CrowdStrike experts determined that the culprit was Russia.
Fact 3. The FBI never received access to the DNC server, so the Russian connection was never officially confirmed and continues to be an allegation coming from the DNC and its Ukrainian-owned contractor.
Fact 4. Absent the official verdict, other theories continue to circulate, including the possibility that the theft was an inside job by a DNC employee, who simply copied the files to a USB drive and sent it to WikiLeaks.
None of these facts was ever disputed by anyone. The media largely ignored them except for the part about the Russian hackers, which boosted their own, now debunked, wild conspiracy theory that Trump was a Russian agent.
Now that Trump had asked the newly elected Ukrainian president Zelensky to look into CrowdStrike during that fateful July phone call, the media all at once started telling us that "CrowdStrike" is a code word for a conspiracy theory so insane that only Trump could believe in it, which is just more proof of how insane he is.
Why do you keep asking a rhetorical question?
Why do you want others to answer a question that can only be answered by "some" people not present?
You're asking for suppositions, you're not seeking facts.
>>>Why do you want others to answer a question that can only be answered by “some” people not present?
Because some unknown “They”, for some unknown reason, have used up the time and resources of the President, the Vice President, the Secretary of State, the Secretary of Energy, the head of the National Security Agency and countless diplomats to pursue this server.
Maybe it’s time for “They” to start answering these questions before any more of the President’s time is wasted on this issue. We know “They” have been telling the President that Crowdstrike is a Ukranian company run by a wealthy Ukranian. What other facts are they getting wrong and sharing with the President?
>>>why do you keep asking a rhetorical question?
I suppose I should be happy that no one on this forum actually believes that there is a DNC server sitting somewhere in the Ukraine.
You - Maybe it’s time for “They” to start answering these questions before any more of the President’s time is wasted on this issue.
Your response doesn't answer my question at all.
Once again, how can someone answer a question only those not present (“They”) can answer?
(hint - nobody can answer the question for them (“They”) with any surety)
I'm forced to state yet again...you're asking for suppositions, you're not seeking facts.
>>>I’m forced to state yet again...you’re asking for suppositions, you’re not seeking facts.
Ok, do you believe that Crowdstrike hid a DNC server in the Ukraine?
Where has it been shown that there isn't a DNC server sitting somewhere in the Ukraine?
global cloud infrastructure servers
Top Cloud Computing Companies in Ukraine
Do you understand the implication or do I need to spell it out?
Terabytes of information passing back and forth across the world and where it stops nobody knows. Information could be, notice I said could be, at a server farm in Ukraine on a pulled/disconnected blade server/rack server.
Perhaps time will tell.
I anticipated you...see reply 87.
The better question would be...did the DNC utilize cloud services in the Ukraine and were copies of the information saved there?
Do you don’t think that the terrabytes are there, tou just think they could be. And those terrabytes could just as easily be at a server farm in Ghana. So by your logic we should be pursuing investigations there as well. But we aren’t.
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Very true. Perhaps "They" know that Ghana doesn't have the information there. Routing/data packets may hold the key.
>>>Perhaps “They” know that Ghana doesn’t have the information
The same They that believes Crowdstrike is a Ukranian firm owned by a wealthy Ukranian. That doesn’t inspire a lot of confidence in what they might know.
And Julian Assange wastes away - supposedly - in a Brit gaol; reportedly poor health. I hope he survives to clear up this horrible coup propaganda lie!
This myth of a Russian hack is at the core of an FBI conspiracy with the Clinton campaign.
''Lee Smith's book, The plot Against the President (which I have started to read), details it rather conclusively. It is an on-going plot. When one door closes another is opened ... the intent was to install Hillary as Chief Executive - because she had obviously won the election but the Russians interfered and stole it from her.''
This is the heart of their whole strategy following HRC's loss in 2016 - she lost because of the Russians, hack of the DNC server and collusion with their special agent: Donald J Trump. It didn't work so they have moved on but they fear the evidence that convicts them!
For some of us at least it will always be treason!
Microsoft Ukraine: government needs to unlock IT potential Nov. 11, 2016
Keep nibbling that bait.
Microsoft opens first datacenters in Africa with general availability of Microsoft Azure Mar 6, 2019
Today, I am pleased to announce the general availability of Microsoft Azure from our new cloud regions in Cape Town and Johannesburg, South Africa.
Snip...The launch of these regions marks a major milestone for Microsoft as we open our first enterprise-grade datacenters in Africa, becoming the first global provider to deliver cloud services from datacenters on the continent.
Ghana is a bust for you.
That would be the first Microsoft data center, not the first data center.
If you would note reply 95 you might save yourself some embarrassment.
OOPS! Too late.
Hint - Microsoft Exchange Server
Get it? Unless you believe that Microsoft would use someone else's center and not their own which they have control over.
(I wouldn't go there if I were you) (think business contracts)
I agree.
My complaint - why have Trump and his defense team allowed the media to, first, ignore it, and now, mock it?
Trump sends out 10 word Tweet references to Cloudstrike, and 95% of the voting public has no idea what he is talking about.
As far as I know, his defense team has never even mentioned Cloudstrike.
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