Skip to comments.With Trump’s planned rollback, it could soon cost more energy to wash Thanksgiving dishes
Posted on 11/28/2019 3:41:23 PM PST by simpson96
Energy Department wants to make dishwashers great again with faster-cleaning appliances
Peoples time is a nonrenewable resource.
Thats the argument pushed by the Trump administration as it moves to roll back energy-efficiency requirements that slowed down dishwashers and other household appliances, according to one Energy Department official quoted this fall when the proposal was open to response.
The department has now said it will move ahead with the rule-making change that came about with prodding by the Competitive Enterprise Institute, known for its activism refuting climate-change statistics. The group supports a new class of fast dishwashers that can complete a cycle in an hour or less.
Other groups had chimed in, too.
Dishwashers used to clean a full load of filthy dishes in under an hour. But now they take an average of two and a half hours and STILL leave dishes dirty! reads one online petition to push the energy department to action. It was promoted by FreedomWorks, a libertarian arm of a group co-founded by the Koch brothers. The petition, titled Make Dishwashers Great Again, is just one part of a broad campaign coordinated by conservative organizations, some with ties, like the Kochs, to fossil-fuel companies.
The rule would exempt new dishwashers from the prior energy-efficiency standards. Its not a small market: This year, there were nearly 9 million dishwashers sold in the U.S.
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I prefer plastic plates - they burn just as well in the fire pit.
If the market supports it energy-efficient appliances will still be manufactured and available. I like choices.
Your father sounds like a smart man!
wax coated plates if you want to be fancy.
Was it cheating that I bought an old Kenmore portable, off of Craigslist, that has a garbage grinder in the bottom? It could probably clean off a baked on musk rat...
There is a black market in real toilets. They are actually smuggling in high flow stools from Canada. You might check with a local contractor...
There’s also old-fashioned dishwasher detergent, now labeled only for commercial establishments.
Both. There are hardware issues driven by the appliance efficiency extremists in government, and cleaner product formulation changes driven by the EPA or similar. A big part of the cleaner issues are from removal of TSP, trisodium phosphate, which is an excellent surfactant. Ive got a box in the laundry room, and if I happen to have a real dirty load, will throw some in.
Amperage of rotatory spray head and pump motors
Dishwashers that actually wash dishes & toilets that actually flush are not a bad thing....
The Maytag dishwasher I bought about 3 years ago has a grinder in it and it works great. When I bought it it was 1 of 2 left in the appliance store and they told me they were being phased out. I never rinse dishes and they come out sparkling clean. It replaced an old Kenmore with a grinder in it that burned out.
That tank better filter it. Rainwater is not clean water.
And as reliable. Unfortunately, all modern appliances are cheaply made junk.
[Dishwasher power with TSP can still be bought for commercial applications. Any idea what the difference is between STPP and TSP?]
Exactly - we have a couple of decent, newer toilets, and they do the job, for the most part, but oftentimes need an extra flush. On the other hand, the one OLD toilet we still have (it's at least 50 years old) can flush down a hand towel and be perfectly fine (and yes, I know this is true because I prematurely flushed while I was washing it up and that old towel was gone in a flash!)
We have a newer dishwasher and I HATE it -- it takes forever, the dishes are still wet when it's done (even with the hi-heat drying cycle) and there are always a few dishes/utensils that need another run.
We have stopped buying American appliances. The companies are ripping off Americans. We have had a Bosh dishwasher for 8 years and it does great.
There’s another perk besides energy. Those energy efficient appliances are under-powered and over burdened, leading to reduced utility life. Allowing more power means the appliances will last longer. You’ll get 10 or 15 years from a refrigerator or a washer instead of 5.
My old one did. The new one we purchased this summer is much quieter and takes about half the time.
I buy plastic plates just to piss the leftards off more
NEXT DO THE ‘LOW FLOW” TOILETS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How many plumbing and sanitation problems are caused by this?
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