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Is it corruption if a US VP flies his son on a gov plane to a foreign country and enriches him?

Posted on 11/23/2019 3:36:24 PM PST by Jim Robinson

Would it be considered corruption if a US VP flies his son on a gov plane on an official gov mission to a foreign country of which said VP has certain official oversight responsibilities and introduces said son to a certain known corrupt corporation and son ends up in a lucrative position with said corrupt corporation that enriches him?

In the case of Biden & Son regarding Ukraine and Burisma, is this a conspiracy theory or is it fact?


TOPICS: Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: corruption
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To: Jim Robinson
If asked at FR the answer should be yes. (yes is my answer)

If asked outside of FR it will depend on where it is asked.
HuffPo denizens would probably give you a no reply.

21 posted on 11/23/2019 4:37:35 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: entropy12; ifinnegan; All

Yup, ifinnegan linked to an article where it appears even the NYT accepts the part of the story that Biden’s son was being enriched by Burisma as fact. The Times states it’s ‘legal,’ but that’s laughable. Government officials abusing their positions of power to enrich themselves or friends or relatives is the very definition of government corruption. Doesn’t even need much investigation. If any funds whatsoever from Ukraine or Burisma, etc, ended up in any of VP Biden’s & son’s accounts or any relatives or friends accounts, they’re guilty of influence peddling, money laundering, bribery, etc.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/29/business/media/fact-check-biden-ukraine-burisma-china-hunter.html

“At the time of his board appointment, the younger Mr. Biden had just been discharged from the Navy Reserve for drug use. He had no apparent experience in Ukraine or natural gas. And while accepting the board position was legal, it reportedly raised some eyebrows in the Obama administration. The Burisma board position was lucrative: Mr. Biden received payments that reached up to $50,000 per month.”


22 posted on 11/23/2019 4:39:45 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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To: entropy12

When a Pres cannot point out crooks like Biden, Clinton, and Kerry- it is time, we, the public hang them.


23 posted on 11/23/2019 4:42:25 PM PST by Lumper20 (Our Congress must be stripped of FERS and AFGE union insurance..)
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To: Jim Robinson


24 posted on 11/23/2019 4:43:57 PM PST by 4Liberty (Best argument for public Hangings: No pardons by future administrations are possible.)
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Hunter Biden-linked company received $130M in special federal loans while Joe Biden was VP
Washington Examiner ^ | November 21, 2019 | Alana Goodman
FR Posted on 11/21/2019, 7:25:13 AM by gattaca

An investment firm linked to Hunter Biden received over $130 million in federal bailout loans while his father Joe Biden was vice president and routed profits through a subsidiary in the Cayman Islands, according to federal banking and corporate records reviewed by the Washington Examiner.
Financial experts said the offshore corporate structure could have been used to shield earnings from United States taxes.

Rosemont Capital, an investment firm at the center of Hunter Biden’s much-scrutinized financial network, was one of the companies approved to participate in the 2009 federal loan program known as the Term Asset-Backed Securities Loan Facility, or TALF.

Under the program, the U.S. Treasury Department and the Federal Reserve Bank issued billions of dollars in highly favorable loans to select investors who agreed to buy bonds that banks were struggling to offload, including bundled college and auto loans.

According to federal records, 177 firms participated in TALF, many of them well connected in Washington or on Wall Street. For investors, there was little risk and a high chance of reward. The Federal Reserve funded as much as 90% of the investments. If the bonds were profitable, the borrowers benefited. If not, the department agreed to take over the depreciated assets with no repercussions for the borrowers.

“It’s very complicated to become qualified as a TALF borrower or as a TALF fund, if you will,” Carol Pepper, a wealth management specialist, told Forbes in 2009. “But that’s an example of where, if you can get into a TALF fund, you can benefit from this government program.”

Under the terms for the program, any U.S. company looking to invest in select categories of bonds was eligible to apply for the loans. However, the Treasury Department and Federal Reserve maintained the “right to reject a borrower for any reason,” and the internal selection process was criticized by some lawmakers as opaque and open to corruption.
“How can my constituents in Vermont get some of that money? Who makes the decisions? Do you guys sit around in a room — do you make it? Are there conflicts of interest?” Sen. Bernie Sanders asked Federal Reserve Bank Chairman Ben Bernanke at a March 3, 2009, Senate hearing. “Do you have to be a large, greedy, reckless financial institution to apply for these monies?”
Joe Biden was a key advocate for the financial bailout, which was approved under the Bush administration and expanded under President Barack Obama. He delayed his Senate resignation in January 2009 to cast his final vote to increase funding for the Troubled Asset Relief Program before taking office as vice president.

“These guys are not the most likable guys in the world,” Biden said about the banks and hedge funds aided by the government intervention. “But here are the facts ... Had we not bailed out the largest bank institutions in the world, there would have been a flat-out depression.”

One of the firms that benefited was Rosemont Capital, a company led by Hunter Biden’s business partners, Chris Heinz and Devon Archer. The firm received the loans at a crucial time for Hunter Biden. The younger Biden had stepped down from his lobbying business in late 2008, reportedly due to pressure on his father’s vice presidential campaign.

Biden, Heinz, and Archer incorporated Rosemont Seneca Partners in Delaware on June 25, 2009. The “alternative investment and market advisory firm” was an offshoot of Rosemont Capital, which held a 50% stake in the new venture. Rosemont Seneca and Rosemont Capital shared the same office address in lower Manhattan and the same New York phone number, according to Securities and Exchange Commission documents. Three weeks after Rosemont Seneca was incorporated, a subsidiary of Rosemont Capital called Rosemont TALF SPV, received $23.5 million in federal loans through the TALF program. This included $13.4 million to invest in student loans and $11.1 million to invest in subprime auto loans. Over five months, the company received a total of $130 million from the program in multiple installments for investments in subprime credit cards and residential mortgages.

“This is a great example of the suspicion of many Americans that these bailouts were used to benefit connected insiders while ordinary Americans went broke,” said Tom Anderson, director of the Government Integrity Project at the National Legal and Policy Center, an organization that was critical of TALF at the time.

Although the government stopped issuing the loans at the end of 2009, the names of the well connected borrowers and investors were later released — prompting new criticism from lawmakers and the press. In April 2011, Rolling Stone reported that millions in TALF loans had been issued to the wife of Morgan Stanley Chairman John Mack, Miami Dolphins owner H. Wayne Huizenga, and Wall Street titan John Paulson, dubbing the program “welfare for the rich.”


25 posted on 11/23/2019 5:03:55 PM PST by Liz (Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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To: Jim Robinson

It depends on their political party.


26 posted on 11/23/2019 5:12:10 PM PST by Robert357
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To: Jim Robinson

Depends on the party


27 posted on 11/23/2019 5:18:14 PM PST by genghis
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To: Jim Robinson; All

Posts BUMP! The Impeachment of Donald J. is akin to “The Trial” of Josef K (Franz Kafka). Take notes. Take names. A republic needs you.


28 posted on 11/23/2019 5:18:20 PM PST by PGalt (Past Peak Civilization)
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To: Jim Robinson

You don’t need to rush out and buy a Magic 8-Ball® to get the right answer to this one


29 posted on 11/23/2019 6:00:49 PM PST by Oscar in Batangas (January 20, 2017, High Noon. The end of an error.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Rudy has the evidence....and exposing the Biden Romania story.
Pull the trigger Rudy !


30 posted on 11/23/2019 6:16:33 PM PST by wardamneagle
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To: Jim Robinson; Liz
I asked back on 10/1/2019, did Hunter pay for his flight to China on AF2 ?

I had no response and I haven't found anything one way or the other...

Liz asked a question back in sept "Did Hunter Biden pay taxes on the “gift” of a diamond he received in China?"

https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3781966/posts?page=69#69

What I want to know is, can Pres. Trump have Joe & Hunter Biden arrested on behalf of Ukraine under the Legal Treaty ?
31 posted on 11/23/2019 6:21:42 PM PST by stylin19a (2016 - Best.Election.Of.All.Times.Ever.In.The.History.Of.Ever)
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To: Jim Robinson

Short answer, yes. All the rest of us would be facing felony charges.


32 posted on 11/23/2019 11:40:13 PM PST by wiley (John 16:33: "In the world you have tribulation, but take courage; I have overcome the world.")
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To: Jim Robinson

Not if the person is a Dem, chosen to try to unseat Trump, and a darling of the MSM - because he’s a Dem .....and says he ain’t dun nuttin wrong....


33 posted on 11/24/2019 4:05:43 AM PST by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: Jim Robinson

It is only corruption if you don’t pay off the right people.


34 posted on 11/24/2019 5:38:07 AM PST by eyeamok
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To: stylin19a
.......can Pres. Trump have Joe & Hunter Biden arrested on behalf of Ukraine under the Legal Treaty ?....

....cackle......

35 posted on 11/24/2019 6:46:37 AM PST by Liz (Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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