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If President Trump wants his day in the Senate to clear his name, I say let him have it. I'm good with that. I stand by my President 100%.

Let's roll.

1 posted on 11/22/2019 8:58:11 AM PST by usconservative
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To: usconservative

I’ll wager this is scaring the sh*t out of the Dems!

Trump knows exactly what he’s doing!


2 posted on 11/22/2019 8:59:51 AM PST by Artcore (Trump 2020!)
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I don’t think it will get to the senate for trial. The Dems are scared to death of Discovery and there would be tons of Discovery in a trial.


3 posted on 11/22/2019 8:59:58 AM PST by laplata (The Left/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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Aww man, he just killed the impeachment show!! Now that he has said he wants it, it is the last thing the democrats will do.


5 posted on 11/22/2019 9:04:25 AM PST by FlipWilson
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To: usconservative

I don’t trust the Bush League Republican Senators at all.


7 posted on 11/22/2019 9:04:37 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: usconservative

Could someone please ask Nancy Pelosi where she obtained over $200 million dollars?

Anyone?


11 posted on 11/22/2019 9:30:38 AM PST by isthisnickcool (Say what you will about The Donald, but he has all the right enemies.)
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The Dims are in a pickle.

At least 1/4 of their caucus does NOT want to see this play out in the Senate.

Therefore there will not be 218 votes IF articles are ever introduced.


12 posted on 11/22/2019 9:35:18 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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THE SCHIFF HOUSE DUMPSTER FIRE IN 2 MINUTES!
Phony claims of collusion, phone calls, Quid pro quo &, finally, bribery are all Democrat excuses to piss away millions of our dough and waste years they could use to solve REAL problems here! Did I mention that they were also trying to save their worthless asses?
https://www.brighteon.com/071a991d-1127-4564-a44a-0b4e44e785f1


19 posted on 11/22/2019 9:54:58 AM PST by Dick Bachert
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One should avoid court if at all possible.

The House is likely going to censure and not impeach based on the polling data.


21 posted on 11/22/2019 10:07:18 AM PST by hawkaw
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Dems have been boxed in to lose-lose situation.

If the house votes for impeachment, then the Senate will rip the DNC / Shift / Biden a new one during their investigation. The GOP will not be so hamstrung. This will REALLY piss off the voters and expose the Dem corruption. Might even lead to criminal investigations. Pelosi wants to avoid this as she knows that this will drag the Dem candidates into DC and keep them off the campaign trail. Also will open up the Obama/Biden corruption investigation.

If the house does not vote for impeachment, the rabid left will howl and will primary the sitting house critters. Both scenarios will likely see the house revert to the GOP. Pelosi does not want to loose the house so she has to protect those representatives that are vulnerable (Trump country).

The only “thread the needle” option that I see available to the Dems is to hold off on the vote for Impeachment until after the primaries / super tuesday on March 3rd. This would prevent the vulnerable dems from being primaried. Then vote on Impeachment and allow the vulnerable Dems to not support the articles and allow the safe dems to support. This is then unlikely to pass the house as there would not be the 218 votes required. That stops the articles from going to the senate so, no investigations.

That path would allow the Dem leadership to claim that they did all that they could but didn’t have enough votes due to GOP election pressure or some such. That then is spun to the Dem base as .... see, this is why we need your support. The problem is that Super tuesday is the top of March.

So I expect to see some delay tactics. Schft to keep his committee going until just before Xmass break. The the Judicary to take up in Mid Jan. First with some procedural delays, and then with some closed door witness testimony, and then some open testimony and then some time to draft the articles. THEN forward to the house for vote late Feb.

Pelosi schedules house vote after super tuesday.

Just my crystal ball ....


23 posted on 11/22/2019 10:34:33 AM PST by taxcontrol (Stupid should hurt - dad's wisdom)
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President Trump wants his day in court (Senate) and wants a trial.

I doubt that very much.

The Senate is not bound by any judicial rules, and an impeachment trial is not a legal proceeding of the sort that we commonly expect from court proceedings. There are no "Rules-of-Evidence". There is no Right-to-Discovery. There is no right to cross-examination of witnesses. There is no "Due-Process". The Senate is not a Court of Law.

There is only a 2/3 vote for conviction required from the members present. That could be 10 Democrats voting for conviction when 90 other Senators are stuck in a snow storm and cannot get to the chamber in time for the vote.

Or 20 Republican RINOS simply fail to show up on the day of the vote. I am certain that the backroom deals and offers are under negotiation right now. The only restraint is the assessment of whether the RINOS could actually collect what is being offered.

I would hope the Senate immediately dismisses any impeachment charges from the House as unfounded. That should end the matter right there.

The longer this goes on, the more dangerous it will get.

27 posted on 11/22/2019 10:56:36 AM PST by flamberge (The wheels keep turning)
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“please, Br’er Fox, don’t fling me in dat brier-patch,”


29 posted on 11/22/2019 11:12:07 AM PST by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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What did Trump say that was so controversial?

https://www.thedailybeast.com/fox-and-friends-host-steve-doocy-scrambles-when-trump-boosts-insane-conspiracy-theory-are-you-sure


31 posted on 11/22/2019 11:18:50 AM PST by Sam Gamgee
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This will be a win either way for POTUS.
He will characterize a censure as a victory and mock Schiff incessantly, OR the Senate will eviscerate the crooked Dims in a trial.


34 posted on 11/22/2019 1:15:52 PM PST by GnuThere
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