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To: logi_cal869
I am merely posting legitimate studies. You are free to post studies on the success of your dietary approach.

I think you will note dozens of FReepers have had immense success with reversing their health conditions through a lower carb approach over the past couple years in which I’ve been posting these studies. You could imagine I’m pretty happy we will have FReepers around a lot longer now.

One could ask, “Why not simply change one’s diet to using the Okinawa approach?” I’m not against such a diet, but any diet needs to be adhered to to succeed. People are finding that a low carb approach is pretty easy and provides very quick benefits. Their hunger goes away while accomplishing their goal. The other diets generally leave these same people hungry and their goals don’t get met because their bodies are out of whack. They have already over used carbs and eating high carb, but less, doesn’t work. They have abused carbs so much their liver and pancreas are dysfunctional.

As an illustration, I doubt doctors or friends would have much success telling functional drunks to simply cut down your drinking by 30% and you will get healthy again. Keep drinking 70% of what you do, because that won’t hurt you and people can easily manage 70% of their normal alcohol volume. It’s just the little extra that makes you dysfunctional.

Why is the drinking advice I offer bad or not a parallel of your dietary approach? Eating or drinking less is the key, right? Maybe shifting to drinking a different alcohol will do it, like changing to rice from bread?

This study shows positive results from subjects who had provably reversed diabetes and they were able to measure the amount of fat removal was needed for diabetes to go away.

I don’t see how your protest provides a substantive rebuttal to the study’s work. Can you elucidate your thoughts?

I like your rants, logi_cal869. It keeps you engaged and questioning and I know you mean well for others.

42 posted on 11/17/2019 7:02:05 AM PST by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: ConservativeMind

First off, apologies for my tone. I’m horribly-frustrated at the level of ignorance on health matters. If you’ve never done outreach, it’s impossible to grasp my meaning.

2nd, I did not critique the study, but your footnote comments. I cannot elaborate further on the revelations my book will expose, but suffice to state that I consistently berate ‘diet’ as a four-letter-word (i.e., an obscenity) and a tool of manipulation.

The sooner that everyone grasps that reality the better off everyone will be, mentally & physically. Conservatives are especially sensitive to manipulation, hence my frustration in some of these threads.

I do appreciate your efforts to break through the morass of health hyperbole, but I get especially-frustrated at anything which promotes restrictive ‘dieting’ as a way of life. This includes the hysteria about ‘low carb’ (which is NOT the converse of “excess”). There is as much evidence for harm to health from such approaches as there is to short-term benefits. The prudent approach would be to err on the side of caution, yet the mantra - including the other FReeper’s comment in reply to my ‘rant’ which touts ‘keto’ - is to ignore difficult truths and revel in the emotional satisfaction of short-term benefits, rationalizing “Why not?” for engaging it long term rather than investing as much energy in health/dietary research as “Fantasy Football”, social media or any other obsession.

To-wit, I am obsessed with solving this western health crisis and I believe that I’ve nailed it.

Again, I cannot elaborate.

However, as a practical matter from which all can benefit, Keto (aka Atkins) is a good “regimen” (i.e. “short-term”) to launch into a realistic lifestyle approach (Paleo-like, but “Paleo” is overly-simplistic and ignorant of other factors), but all considerations must be weighed, including factors about which most are especially-ignorant (one of which being the gut, another being all sources of toxicity, not merely “gluten” or “carbs”).

And to your comment “note dozens of FReepers have had immense success with reversing their health conditions”: Those results were most certainly NOT achieved in mere weeks and I assure you with near certainty that in many-to-most cases I can find hypocrisy compromising the touted gains despite measured results in tests or at the scale, unfortunately being the unmistakable results of my research/counseling/outreach, repeated ad nauseam with subjects at a rate of over 9-in-10 people who tout the measured results of adopted extremes.

One final word: Your use of the word ‘diet’ with “Okinawa approach” is a misnomer: Okinawans do NOT ‘diet’, they LIVE.

There is a life lesson in there.

Be well and keep at it.


59 posted on 11/20/2019 5:45:30 AM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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