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Shouldn't all of the states be taken off of welfare?
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Posted on 11/03/2019 12:52:26 PM PST by ProgressingAmerica

There's an interesting headline out there today, which can serve as a good educational moment. Due to the ravages of the fires out in California, the White House is threatening to cut off federal funding.

Now first off, The notion of this phrase "federal funding" (the article also uses the phrase "state funding") is offensive because it's dishonest. It's welfare, that's what it is. I'm not interested in P.C. comfort terms. As I wrote in May of 2017, when the progressives were starting off building their nanny-state empire, they had a very specific list of welfare queens - 48 of them to be exact. When progressives are determined to achieve a goal, they are very crafty in a deceitful way of achieving their goals.

The progressive notion of putting the states on welfare first, before turning individuals into welfare queens was destined for success.

But why are we keeping around such a relic from a discredited ideology? I mean, I know why the progressives want to keep it, it's because they really don't like the states and want to subjugate them just like they want to subjugate us. That's why they put together court rulings such as Wickard v. Filburn. Count me out. Wickard also needs to be repealed.

Now in the short term, there is probably some merit to getting California to actually do something useful about these fires. Federal Government does in fact have California on food stamps, so why not cut off said food stamps? Ok, well if we only want to engage in extreme short term thinking is that workable. That's not what I'm talking about though. I'm talking about the underlying issue of this long-standing welfare scheme, and looking out over America as a whole over the last 100+ years, these schemes of progressivism are an absolute horrific failure.



TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: clowardpiven; federalfunding; federalism; foodstamps; progressingamerica; progressivism; socialism; subsidies; thirdway; welfare; welfarism; workfare
Here is the full list once more: America's first welfare queens:

Alabama

Arizona

Arkansas

California

Colorado

Connecticut

Delaware

Florida

Georgia

Idaho

Illinois

Indiana

Iowa

Kansas

Kentucky

Louisiana

Maine

Maryland

Massachusetts

Michigan

Minnesota

Mississippi

Missouri

Montana

Nebraska

Nevada

New Hampshire

New Jersey

New Mexico

New York

North Carolina

North Dakota

Ohio

Oklahoma

Oregon

Pennsylvania

Rhode Island

South Carolina

South Dakota

Tennessee

Texas

Utah

Vermont

Virginia

Washington

West Virginia

Wisconsin

Wyoming

1 posted on 11/03/2019 12:52:26 PM PST by ProgressingAmerica
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Progressives do not want to discuss their own history. I want to discuss their history.

Summary: Welfare is not limited to human recipients. In America, human recipients weren't first in line either.

2 posted on 11/03/2019 12:54:15 PM PST by ProgressingAmerica (We cannot leave history to "the historians" anymore.)
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Even more laughable are the talking heads out there that are saying that Trump is bullying the states using federal aid. No, he isn’t. Trump wasn’t alive in 1914 when the states were put onto welfare.

This is the media trying to have it both ways.

When Obama wanted the states to do a certain thing, what did he do? Cut their aid.
When Jimmy Carter wanted the states to do a certain thing, what did he do? Cut their aid.
When JFK wanted the states to do a certain thing, what did he do? Cut their aid.
When FDR wanted the states to do a certain thing, what did he do? Cut their aid.

It’s all par for the course with these progressives. They want complete social control over everything you hold dear. And let’s calculate this. We could do great damage to progressivism by repealing state welfare. Which is why you DON’T see anybody in the media saying that it should all be repealed. They just whine that Trump is using state welfare the incorrect way.


3 posted on 11/03/2019 12:55:37 PM PST by ProgressingAmerica (We cannot leave history to "the historians" anymore.)
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To: ProgressingAmerica
Shouldn't all of the states be taken off of welfare?

Of course, if any one cares about recovering our Free Constitutional Republic.

But the political powers in all of the states are more interested in their own political fortunes by being financial dependent on the Fascist Feds than in INDEPENDENCE from them.

Only the people of each state can change that by electing uncorrupted non-political leaders who BELIEVE in restoring our Free Constitutional Republic which is based on the Declaration of INDEPENDENCE!!!

4 posted on 11/03/2019 12:59:56 PM PST by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

If you fall across the border from Squatamala with your Ninos you get the full boat welfare. If you’re a ‘refugee’ you get full boat welfare. If you’re an legal immigrant you get full boat welfare. If you’re a native born American and want to raise a family, well, you and the wife better get to work, unless of course you’re of the appropriate social class.


5 posted on 11/03/2019 1:13:37 PM PST by dljordan
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To: ProgressingAmerica

We really need to get the FEDGOV out of our lives, restricting them to the enumerated powers granted by the constitution. Everything else, including welfare, education, infrastructure, and and the taxes to support them, should be a function of the States. Then people could choose free, less intrusive states, or all powerful nanny states to live their life, and pay the price in their taxes. It would also tie their votes more directly to their wallet.


6 posted on 11/03/2019 1:15:50 PM PST by ETCM
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To: ETCM

We really need to get the FEDGOV out of our lives, restricting them to the enumerated powers granted by the constitution.


Do you know how many times conservatives want federal laws to solve problem? I have been told on this site that “our laws are better............”

Federal government is the solution to every problem. We are not patient enough to let the market place work............


7 posted on 11/03/2019 1:21:16 PM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

Absolutely. Great post. Let them sink in their own dystopic swamp. They can tax their subjects into prosperity. Besides, we can’t afford it...

https://usdebtclock.org

Whiney welfare states ALERT!


8 posted on 11/03/2019 1:21:21 PM PST by PGalt
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To: ProgressingAmerica

No one wants to bail out California because they make stupid choices that cause the fires.

This issue has nothing to do with ‘welfare’ it has to do with liberal stupidity. Let the environment nuts bail them out.


9 posted on 11/03/2019 1:31:24 PM PST by GOPJ (Ted Kennedy killed a girl and they had no problem defending him. - - Tucker Carlson)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

No one wants to bail out California because they make stupid choices that cause the fires.

This issue has nothing to do with ‘welfare’ it has to do with liberal stupidity. Let the environmental nuts bail them out.


10 posted on 11/03/2019 1:31:53 PM PST by GOPJ (Ted Kennedy killed a girl and they had no problem defending him. - - Tucker Carlson)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

Government purposely fails so that we all have to eventually bail them out over and over. That’s all part of their scheme.


11 posted on 11/03/2019 1:32:37 PM PST by Bullish (My tagline ran off with another man.)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

No subsidies to state and local governments, big corporations, small business, agriculture, educational institutions, or individuals. The government should pay for what it needs to buy, but get it out of the subsidy business altogether. Government money brings government control.

Also, all those dollars flowing from Washington centralize teh government in violation of the Constitution.


12 posted on 11/03/2019 1:35:30 PM PST by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.)
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Not unless the personal _income_tax_ is repealed as lawful DC would do. Otherwise DC is stealing the states income, reaching right past their sovereign boundary and seizing the property of the state and its citizens.

Any taxation of USAians by DC is lawfully through an bill of apportionment which DC sends to each state. Its citizens are immune to direct DC taxes.

Does there remain any lawful law in DC?


13 posted on 11/03/2019 2:04:49 PM PST by veracious (UN=OIC=Islam; USgov may be radically changed, just amend USConstitution)
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To: PeterPrinciple
Do you know how many times conservatives want federal laws to solve problem? ... Federal government is the solution to every problem.

Pretty much every person I know who "identifies as conservative" would disagree with the above. Those whose believe this are not conservatives at all. Unfortunately, the Congress is infested with such "conservatives".

"The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help."

- President Reagan Aug. 12, 1986

14 posted on 11/03/2019 2:27:20 PM PST by ETCM
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To: ProgressingAmerica; All
"Shouldn't all of the states be taken off of welfare?"

From related threads…

Let’s put it this way. One of the very few federal domestic spending programs that the states have expressly constitutionally given Congress the specific power to tax and spend for is the US Mail Service (1.8.7).

"Article I, Section 8, Clause 7: To establish Post Offices and post Roads;"

Consider that if a given federal domestic spending program is not reasonably related to the mail service, and most of them aren’t, then patriots can bet that it is unconstitutional and win their bet probably most of the time imo.

In other words, such programs are based on state powers, and uniquely associate state revenues, that the feds have been stealing from the states, and continue to steal, in the form of unconstitutional federal taxes, taxes that Congress cannot justify under its constitutional Article I, Section 8-limited powers.

In fact, the congressional record shows that Rep. John Bingham, a constitutional lawmaker, had clarified that the Founding States had left the care of the people to the states, not the feds.

”... the care of the property, the liberty, and the life of the citizen, under the solemn sanction of an oath imposed by your Federal Constitution, is in the States, and not in the Federal Government [emphases added].” —Rep. John Bingham, Congressional Globe, 1866. (See about middle of 3rd column.)

Justices Brandeis had later reflected on Bingham words, putting it this way about unique, 10th Amendment (10A)-protected state powers to care for the people.

"It is one of the happy incidents of the federal system that a single courageous State may, if its citizens choose [emphasis added], serve as a laboratory; and try novel social and economic experiments without risk to the rest of the country.” —Justice Brandeis, Laboratories of democracy.

(Note that constitutional limits on states as laboratories of democracy is that states cannot establish privileged / protected classes or abridge constitutionally enumerated rights, and must maintain a constitutionally guaranteed republican form of government.)

So why are citizens now being oppressed by an unconstitutionally big federal government?

Let’s consider the “before and after” interpretations of 10A by previous generations of Supreme Court justices. Using inappropriate words like “concept” and “implicit,” the excerpt below from Wickard v. Filburn (Wickard) shows what was left of the defense of 10A-protected state sovereignty by the last of the state sovereignty-respecting majority justices in United States v. Butler, FDR’s state sovereignty-ignoring activist justices later blatantly ignoring the reasonable Butler interpretation of 10A when they scandalously decided Wickard in Congress’s favor imo.

Post-17th Amendment career Democrats and RINOs are now using the Court's scandalous Wickard interpretation of 10A to blatantly ignore Section 8-limited powers for all unconstitutional federal domestic spending imo.

The remedy for unconstitutionally big federal government on our backs…

Patriots need to elect a new patriot Congress in the 2020 elections that will not only promise to fully support PDJT's already very successful work for MAGA, now KAG, but will also do this.

New patriot lawmakers also need to promise to work with PDJT to surrender state powers that the feds have stolen from the states back to the states.

And to make such changes permanent, patriots need to further support PDJT in working with the states to repeal the 16th and ill-conceived 17th Amendments.

Remember in November 2020!

MAGA! Now KAG! (Keep America Great!)


15 posted on 11/03/2019 3:30:08 PM PST by Amendment10
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