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Havering Hoard: Weapons found on building site to go on show
BBC ^ | October 21, 2019 | unattributed

Posted on 10/31/2019 10:52:40 AM PDT by SunkenCiv

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To: Leaning Right

What a difference 40 years makes.

I went on leave for a month at a time in ‘80, ‘81 and ‘82.

Bought a Eurail pass, an Intl. Youth Hostel Assoc. membership card, signed a civilian back pack and sleeping bag out at the AFRC shop and hit the rails for London, Paris, Amsterdam, etc.

I also had a big double edged Gerber fighting dagger on my belt under my down vest.

I would check it and the shoulder bag I carried my map, tourist guide, water bottle, emerg C-ration TP pack, etc in at the cloak room when I visited museums, palaces, etc.

Never got more than a raised eye brow from the attendants, even at Parliament or the Tower or the Louvre.

In fact the guy at Parliament, a retired British Army NCO expressed appreciation for the edge, heft and balance, lol.

A bobbie at Hyde Park simply advised me to keep it under my vest when I went to see Speaker’s Corner and listen to the ravers and ranters for a bit.

I usually sat on a wall or bench with a bottle of beer or wine and used it to eat my lunches, cutting up my fruit, bread, cheese, sausage with it.


21 posted on 10/31/2019 12:42:10 PM PDT by skepsel (I miss William F. Buckley and the old Firing Line)
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To: SunkenCiv

Looking forward to the testing for the origin of this copper.


22 posted on 10/31/2019 12:46:31 PM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: Hot Tabasco
Well they didn't do a very good job......LOL!

The corrosion of the ages is part of the history and provenance of the weapons. Restoration should only be done judiciously and not to make them look new. They aren’t new. The effects of time are part of their story.

If you want to see what these once looked like, the proper way is to duplicate the alloy, and make a replica using techniques as close as possible to the original techniques as can be discerned. . . and documenting the procedure at each step.

23 posted on 10/31/2019 1:57:17 PM PDT by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplaphobe bigot!)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Naval Jelly will take that rust right off...


24 posted on 11/01/2019 2:28:41 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: SunkenCiv
Based on the text, I expected this to be evidence of an axe-bit refurbishing / resharpening workshop. IOW, a site akin to the lithic "Tranchet Flake" workshop at Colha in Belize, where used stone adzes were re-sharpened by skillful removal of a single, strategically-planned billet flake (at first called an "'Orange peel/segment' flake", then generalized as "Tranchet Flake").

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However, examination of the photo shows relatively few damaged "bit edges". Rather, most of the damage I see is breakage associated with the hafting cavity or socket on these bronze (90-degree-hafted) axe heads.

Surprisingly, there appears to be few examples of damage to the (relatively-fragile) haft-binding loops...

Several of the axe heads appear to be intact and re-usable, but there may be cracks or fractures not visible in the photos, A number of the samples have sub-rectangular, rather than circular socket openings; the rectangle "corners" could well be stress-risers and fracture-initiation points...

Several fractures appear to be at the bottom of the socket hole, and there are clear indications of a weak (wedge-shaped) socket bottom design.

At any rate, the above failure indications -- plus the presence of amorphous melted bronze -- would tend to imply that, at least, the group in the photo with the gloved hand -- may well have been deemed non-repairable, and were scheduled for re-casting.

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That's a lot of inference from scant data, but, it makes sense to me...

YMMV... '-)

TXnMA
  

25 posted on 11/01/2019 1:10:42 PM PDT by TXnMA (Occam's Razor says that most conspiracist "brain farts" are simply indefensible...)
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intended to copy you on my #25...

BTW, FReepMail for you soon, as well...

FRegards,

TXnMA
  

26 posted on 11/01/2019 1:22:28 PM PDT by TXnMA (Occam's Razor says that most conspiracist "brain farts" are simply indefensible...)
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To: TXnMA
Sounds reasonble, thanks TXnMA!.

27 posted on 11/01/2019 10:42:48 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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28 posted on 11/03/2019 5:08:24 PM PST by bitt ((Epstein didn't kill himself!))
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