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To: NRx

Not sure how much of FDR you have studied. When I didn’t know much about him thanks to my secondary and college education, I had a neutral-to-favorable view of him. After studying him on my own in the years after from a variety of authors (pro- and anti-FDR), like it or not, he ranks with Washington, Lincoln as most influential. But FDR continues to be taught in a positive way to the public. Unfortunately that portrait is like the photos, and how his poor health was (not) reported to the public - done in a way to keep you from seeing the real FDR. He changed the US, and not for the good in so many ways. (FWIW - Trump has the potential to change the USA in profound ways to take the 4th spot as most influential President; a second term will give him the opportunity. Reagan will be ranked behind him, and I really liked Ronnie back when).

FDR heart was in the right place? Where should one start? Threatening the SUpreme Court with expansion to get his unconstitutional programs legally blessed, finally? Let’s do something “small” - He refused to integrate the services in the time of war despite black leaders personally appealing to him in his office for integration well before the war started. Heart in the right place - not from my indepenedent studies. Influential, game changer = yes, but did some wrong things that we are still paying for today, and beyond.


5 posted on 10/23/2019 5:02:03 PM PDT by Susquehanna Patriot
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To: Susquehanna Patriot

I was referring to Hoover, not FDR. In re-reading my comment I can see where that was not clear.


8 posted on 10/23/2019 5:11:34 PM PDT by NRx (A man of honor passes his father's civilization to his son without surrendering it to strangers.)
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To: Susquehanna Patriot

FDR thought Stalin was a swell guy.


13 posted on 10/23/2019 6:09:45 PM PDT by jmacusa ("If wisdom is not the Lord, what is wisdom?)
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To: Susquehanna Patriot

FDR’s heart, mind, and soul were definitely NOT in the ‘right’ place.

The man was evil. Pure evil.

He got the United Nations created during WWII because he learned from his predecessor that the only chance of getting it passed was during a war. To NOT accept the United Nations during a war would be viewed by the American people of that time as traitorous.

FDR wanted into the war so badly he salivated over it.

He let the fleet be placed at Pearl Harbor. The American version of a ‘KICK ME,’ sign.

He also knew ahead of time of the attack because we had the means to crack the Japanese code. To protect the ships, men, and civilians though would have meant disclosing we had the means to crack that code.

And more importantly, he really, really desired to get us into the war because the bankers needed to have their loans paid back.

The man was a freaking travesty upon the American people.


17 posted on 10/23/2019 6:55:50 PM PDT by Notthereyet (NotThereYet)
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