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Lost in Combat? [3000 years ago]
University of Göttingen ^
| 15.10.2019
| Tobias Uhlig, et al
Posted on 10/18/2019 6:35:30 AM PDT by Red Badger
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To: Farmerbob; Red Badger; Openurmind
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posted on
10/18/2019 7:54:11 AM PDT
by
Farmerbob
(Hey humble, i saw a blog over there. Sic it boy, sic it!)
To: Farmerbob
I did catch that and found it highly interesting, It changed the timeline narrative and assumptions of sea trading. :)
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posted on
10/18/2019 7:55:41 AM PDT
by
Openurmind
(The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
To: Farmerbob
The Phoenician traders went everywhere!..............😉
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posted on
10/18/2019 7:56:28 AM PDT
by
Red Badger
(Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain...................)
To: Red Badger
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posted on
10/18/2019 7:59:58 AM PDT
by
Openurmind
(The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
To: Red Badger
Everywhere but the great Lakes, or did they? :)
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posted on
10/18/2019 8:01:33 AM PDT
by
Openurmind
(The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
To: Openurmind
Some say the Vikings, some say the medieval English, some say the Knights Templar all came thru the Great Lakes...................
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posted on
10/18/2019 8:21:11 AM PDT
by
Red Badger
(Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain...................)
To: Openurmind
I agree. This is not equipment as such.
It could also be booty. Bronze was valuable.
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posted on
10/18/2019 8:47:01 AM PDT
by
buwaya
To: Red Badger
I am one who believes this did indeed happen. The official narrative is that it never could have happened because “they couldn’t get their ships from the sea to the lakes”.
My first thought was “What? they didn’t know how to park their ships, walk across land, and build more boats as needed on the other side?” It is one of the most ignorant assumptions I have heard yet. Even the president of the maritime historical society made the comment they never could have done this because the ships would all have to be built in their home ports and “towed” to the new world. WHAT??? The sailors were not certified and approved by the shipbuilder’s union so they were not allowed to build them as need on the other end? If it wasn’t built in a shipyard then it was impossible? Dumbest thing I ever heard.
This prevalent ideology in perspective that dominates the academics is ignorant. They maintain for some reason that landlubbers could never have built boats and floated. And seafarers could never have crossed land. Where did they come up with these assumptions and ignorant stereotyping?
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posted on
10/18/2019 8:50:08 AM PDT
by
Openurmind
(The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
To: Openurmind
One of the reasons, out of many, that the new world was so enticing was that Europe was running out of trees to build ships.......................
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posted on
10/18/2019 8:52:53 AM PDT
by
Red Badger
(Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain...................)
To: Red Badger
I can see this need. Know where we need to look deeper for ancient wrecks and out of place artifacts? In the great lakes...
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posted on
10/18/2019 9:03:15 AM PDT
by
Openurmind
(The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
To: Openurmind
All you’ll find is old PBR cans............
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posted on
10/18/2019 9:06:54 AM PDT
by
Red Badger
(Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain...................)
To: Red Badger
Lol, Something interesting about the great lakes. I guess because of the cold water or something, it preserves wood very well. They are mining 150 year old timbers from the bottom that are like new. They found that they have a very unique quality that makes them valuable.
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posted on
10/18/2019 9:20:26 AM PDT
by
Openurmind
(The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
To: Openurmind
Fresh water doesn’t have marine organisms that destroy wood. ...........
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posted on
10/18/2019 9:21:49 AM PDT
by
Red Badger
(Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain...................)
To: Red Badger
He died doing what he loved.
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posted on
10/18/2019 9:27:12 AM PDT
by
Sirius Lee
(They are openly stating that they intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live.>>>)
To: Sirius Lee
Fighting for his life?...............😯
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posted on
10/18/2019 9:28:04 AM PDT
by
Red Badger
(Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain...................)
To: Red Badger
That’s why! I wasn’t sure what it was. I remember reading somewhere that being water logged for so long all the cellulose is broken down and dissolved away. Apparently this makes it a very tone rich wood to make musical instruments out of. Cellulose deadens the tone and vibrations.
When they discovered this quality from these great lakes timbers is when they think they actually found the secret to the Stradivarius. They think Stradivarius soaked his wood for several years before dry curing it. This has of course been a mystery for a long time.
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posted on
10/18/2019 9:37:03 AM PDT
by
Openurmind
(The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
To: Red Badger
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posted on
10/18/2019 12:09:51 PM PDT
by
SunkenCiv
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To: Red Badger; BenLurkin; buwaya; csvset; Farmerbob; Howie66; JonPreston; MrEdd; Openurmind; ...
Thanks Red Badger.
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posted on
10/18/2019 4:43:19 PM PDT
by
SunkenCiv
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To: Farmerbob; Openurmind; Red Badger
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posted on
10/18/2019 4:46:21 PM PDT
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SunkenCiv
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01/07/2020 10:45:57 PM PST
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SunkenCiv
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