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U of Michigan “just killed my son,” mother says. Hospital yanks life support hours after judge...
National Right to Life ^ | October 16, 2019 | Paul Smeaton

Posted on 10/17/2019 3:26:08 PM PDT by Morgana

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To: little jeremiah

I agree.


41 posted on 10/17/2019 4:49:11 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: TexasGator

Denial and dismissal for lack of standing are not the same. Hood catch.

CC


42 posted on 10/17/2019 4:53:16 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (My cats are more amusing than 200 channels worth of TV)
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To: Celtic Conservative

Good catch. Wish FR had a edit function.

CC


43 posted on 10/17/2019 4:57:06 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (My cats are more amusing than 200 channels worth of TV)
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To: griffin

I believe we should be able to sell our organs and not only donate them.


44 posted on 10/17/2019 5:20:10 PM PDT by cyclotic (Democrats must be politically eviscerated, disemboweled and demolished.)
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To: cyclotic

... I believe we should be able to sell our organs and not only donate them

Well, if you are alive, selling a kidney, skin, or part of a liver would be useful
If yer dead, well, you don’t own them, so you cant sell them.


45 posted on 10/17/2019 5:24:51 PM PDT by HangnJudge (Kipling was right about Humanity)
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To: TexasGator

you got a personal stake in this buddy?


46 posted on 10/17/2019 5:34:54 PM PDT by gdc61 (LOL not.)
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To: lilypad

You said:The hospital cannot and will not take organs unless the parents/guardians give them the ok to do so. Such misinformation is unjust to the people who need them . Been there done that.


But they can and do declare people prematurely brain dead IN SPITE OF OBJECTIONS OF PARENTS OR FAMILY WITH LEGAL HEALTH CARE POWER OF ATTORNEY.

Make sure your loved ones take off the organ donor on driver’s license. It trumps even legal decision members in some states.


47 posted on 10/17/2019 5:46:51 PM PDT by amihow
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To: Morgana

Why didn’t they take him elsewhere? This shit happens every day.


48 posted on 10/17/2019 5:49:05 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Black Agnes

This thread is full of idiotic comments.

No one wants your dried up, stinky smelling unused organs.

I hope no one you know needs one.


49 posted on 10/17/2019 5:50:45 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Paladin2

Except you realize that they are using genetic markers to customize chemotherapy to the individual, right? Solves lung cancer with almost no side effects.

Try reading something new before expressing bullshit, ignorant opinions.


50 posted on 10/17/2019 5:53:33 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Morgana

Yea you would have a cardiac arrest if your oxygen was cut off!


51 posted on 10/17/2019 5:55:04 PM PDT by tallyhoe
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To: Morgana

The people who make these decisions all have addresses. I’m just saying.

L


52 posted on 10/17/2019 5:57:51 PM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: TexasGator

What does that tell you? The hospital turns into a long term care facility? You realize after the declaration, the hospital gets zero reimbursement? And you realize that some person who can live should be in that ICU bed. How would you like your wife or husband die because they needed the respirator this corpse was using.

Ignorant posts actually reinforce people’s opinion to avoid organ donation. And trust me, if you ever spent time working in an ICU, you would know the staff will not rush to harvest anything. You make these people out to be ghouls.

You should be ashamed of your ignorance.


53 posted on 10/17/2019 5:57:55 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: MayflowerMadam

It’s not true. That would get any medical practitioner jailed. In addition, the funeral director would know if they were donors, and would be obligated to report “missing parts.”

Your internet rumor stuff sounds like a Halloween story.

Shame on you for spreading it.


54 posted on 10/17/2019 6:00:08 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: amihow

That is just stupid.


55 posted on 10/17/2019 6:02:57 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: amihow

... But they can and do declare people prematurely brain dead IN SPITE OF OBJECTIONS OF PARENTS OR FAMILY WITH LEGAL HEALTH CARE POWER OF ATTORNEY.

In most states, in cases of death under mechanical means of support, if 2 doctors say you are dead, you are dead. The POA has no standing in this regard.


56 posted on 10/17/2019 6:09:26 PM PDT by HangnJudge (Kipling was right about Humanity)
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To: Vermont Lt
Ignorant posts actually reinforce people’s opinion to avoid organ donation. And trust me, if you ever spent time working in an ICU, you would know the staff will not rush to harvest anything. You make these people out to be ghouls.

Yeah, and abortionists don't rush to sell aborted baby parts either. That would be ghoulish.

What does that tell you? The hospital turns into a long term care facility? You realize after the declaration, the hospital gets zero reimbursement? And you realize that some person who can live should be in that ICU bed. How would you like your wife or husband die because they needed the respirator this corpse was using.

Yeah, sure...except for this little fact you failed to either read or acknowledge..

Bobby’s family brought the case to court to seek more time to arrange a transfer for their son.

They just wanted time to move him out of the precious ICU bed so this boy wouldn't take up the space. Apparently there was some disagreement as to whether the boy was actually brain dead. If the hospital doesn't get reimbursed, why make the declaration while there is possible doubt and it's against the parents' wishes?

The problem is mentality like yours who always seem to err on the side of death.

57 posted on 10/17/2019 6:11:59 PM PDT by Shethink13 (there are 0 electoral votes in the state of denial)
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To: Vermont Lt
It’s not true. That would get any medical practitioner jailed. In addition, the funeral director would know if they were donors, and would be obligated to report “missing parts.”

Because everybody knows that every funeral director is pure as the driven snow and couldn't possibly be corrupted by a huge payoff from the sale of human organs.

Do you seriously believe all the Pollyanna bull you're dishing out?

58 posted on 10/17/2019 6:15:28 PM PDT by Shethink13 (there are 0 electoral votes in the state of denial)
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To: Vermont Lt
"Try reading something new before expressing bullshit, ignorant opinions."

BS opinion on your part. Most of Medicine has yet to become personalized to the point of individualized drugs.

59 posted on 10/17/2019 6:29:49 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: HangnJudge

You said:In most states, in cases of death under mechanical means of support, if 2 doctors say you are dead, you are dead.
The POA has no standing in this regard.
Xxxxxx
If surrogates want to leave mechanical means operative they have the moral right to do so. The law should reflect that right. Many people have been prematurely and mistakenly declared dead according to your scenario.

The determination of death pursuant to brain death criteria is fraught with mistakes.


60 posted on 10/17/2019 6:43:56 PM PDT by amihow
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