Posted on 10/16/2019 5:23:29 AM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
crash death after Donald Trump dropped the "bombshell" that she was in the room next door at the White House.
Charlotte Charles and Tim Dunn felt "a little ambushed" by the offer made by the US president.
Anne Sacoolas, 42, returned to the United States days after the crash which killed 19-year-old Harry.
Harry's parents said they wanted to meet Mrs Sacoolas in the UK.
Mr Dunn said a White House official told them she would not be returning to the UK, but Mr Trump said he would "try to push this from a different angle".
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>>You can smell the handlers a law firm and PR firm from miles away.
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Ain’t that the truth!
Nope.. .we are a sovereign nation with our own laws, answerable up to the Supreme Court.
Oh, and how many “points” would you assess for speeding in the UK and then apply to Texas? What about fines? Alternative classroom options that may not be done in the other country but are done here. . .and the UK saying, nope.
I still laugh over the whole thing. . .imagine a Texas trooper in Austin opening the mail and it’s some local magistrate in the UK TELLING Texas they have to fine me and assess points. HAHAHAHA. . .
Agree
If I had killed someone through my own stupidity and carelessness, I would like to think I had the balls to submit to the chance of serving a few weeks in prison in order to give the parents a sense of closure. Anything else is cowardice and an apology meaningless. I fully understand why these parents are doing what they are doing.
I think fines imposed in the US ought to be enforced in the UK to, up to the maximum allowed under UK law, if the fine is above that maximum. You should not be able to commit a crime in one country and escape justice in another when it is a crime in both countries.
” you are drunk and your car keys are in your pocket and you are not in your car or near it, bam, you are arrested for drunk driving.” Sounds like bullshit to me. I have friends who are bobbies and they have arrested people for being drunk and sat in the drivers seat with the key in the ignition, but they wouldn’t arrest someone just for having car keys in their pocket, because that would not be sufficient proof of intent.
Eng-Islam, the Sharia Country.
It’s a shame no one learns, from the example Brandt Jean set a few weeks ago!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHA0vpVpFDo
Others think it’s not a matter of having “the balls to submit”, it’s insanity. Whatever the parents claim they need in order to feel closure is on them. Increasingly, their persistence appears to be a ploy for blood, money, and publicity.
We can keep going back and forth with what you think and what I think, but at this point, it appears we are not going to come to agreement on this issue. I wish you well.
It is the law. Enforced of not, depends. Cop sitting there and not arresting in according to the law, “sounds like bullshit to me.”
We , when we arrived in the UK, were briefed on this law. Had a couple airmen speak about their experience with that.
I can’t go along with deferring to a foreign country for prosecution and punishment.
Did the crime take place in Texas? No. Then Texas has no authority.
When I was on my way to the pub with a few friends, including one who was a police officer, he spotted a drunk heading towards the car park and followed him, but he didn’t pounce until he saw the guy putting the key into the ignition before arresting him for being drunk in charge of a motor car, otherwise the guy could just have claimed he was going in to sleep it off rather than had an intention to drive drunk.
I suspect if you had murdered someone and then returned to Texas, the courts in Texas would have taken a different view as to whether they shouldn’t enforce a law broken in another country.
>>Eng-Islam, the Sharia Country.
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That reminded me of what Katie Hopkins, on her YouTube channel, mentioned in one of her videos.
She said she lost her highly-valued home because one muslim filed a complaint on her with the U.K. government. The muslim said she “felt offended” at one of Hopkin’s comments.
The U.K. court sided with the muslim, and Hopkins lost her home. Whether it was to pay court-ordered “damages” to the “victim”, or to pay court costs, or both, she didn’t say.
Imagine an American voluntarily placing him or herself under lace myself under the current U.K. court system!
I don’t get how we started thinking that accidents require punishment.
Did she purposely drive on the wrong side? Did she WANT to hit a motorcycle?
Suppose you are in a grocery store, and you grab a glass bottle of wine, and it slips out of your hand. It falls to the floor, and while you run off to get someone to clean it up, another patron steps on the wet spot, slips, falls on the glass, and cuts themselves in the artery, dying before help arrives.
DO we throw you in jail for dropping the glass bottle? I mean, you KNOW you are not supposed to do that.
As the wife of someone with diplomatic immunity, the U.S government should probably provide restitution to the family.
I would want to talk to them. If it was clear to me that they had made a tragic mistake driving on the wrong side of the road, and that they felt badly about it, and if their insurance or government reimbursed me for the costs associated with the accident and funeral services, why would I want them punished?
Will punishment bring back my child? Will taking someone’s wife away make things better, or if they had kids, will taking some child’s parent away improve the situation?
We are at a sad point in history, where people want to take no responsibility for their own daily failures, but want to see other people punished whenever something causes them to feel bad.
Do you want to spend 6 months in prison the next time you lose focus for a second and drive over the center line?
I imagine every driver here has done that multiple times, and just been lucky that there wasn’t a car coming the other direction at that exact moment.
Putting people in prison because of an unfortunate bad luck of having a bad result of doing something that a LOT of people do, seems stupid.
We have a street that becomes one way in a small town here. About once a week I watch a car turn the wrong way down the street, they drive a while, figure it out, and pull off.
Not sure how it helps to throw them in prison for 6 months if, during their brief time of error, some pedestrian stepped off the sidewalk and got hit because they weren’t looking for a car going the wrong way.
It is unlikely she would get a term of imprisonment, especially if she came back volountarily. Our prisons are jam packed as it is and the only people who get locked up are chronic recedivists or people who are a danger to the public. She would more likely get a fine and a community punishment and then get deported. The family aren’t even asking for a prison sentence, they have already said they aren’t asking for her to be locked up, just to come back cooperate with the investigation and allow herself to be held to account. The fine would probably be less than what she’d have to pay in damages in a civil case brought in the US courts, so she might actually be better off coming back, giving the parents the satisfaction of holding herself to account rather than forcing them to seek redress in an expensive civil suit.
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