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Windows 10 update panic: Older VMware Workstation Pro app broken (ver 14 and earlier)
The Register ^ | Oct 7, 2019 | Tim Anderson

Posted on 10/07/2019 8:51:26 AM PDT by dayglored

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To: dayglored

Just asking, do see much VM migration from user workstations to servers?

I could see that for testing, but even usIng VMWare, I create and tests VMs on a server before moving to production.

I’m getting more and more used to running them (VMs) in the cloud. They’re always available, never have to worry about migrating to different platforms, and the cloud vendor has to ensure the host always is up and running.

I use Azure, as Microsoft gives MVPs a free account. Maybe I’m just lazy.


21 posted on 10/07/2019 11:01:29 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (The media is after us. Trump's just in the way.)
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To: dayglored

If this actually also breaks HyperV I will take back the accusation and give them some benefit of the doubt due. :)


22 posted on 10/07/2019 11:02:05 AM PDT by Openurmind
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To: dayglored

Yup, penny wise but pound foolish. Those two days of support and lost production usually cost me than the savings.


23 posted on 10/07/2019 11:03:24 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (The media is after us. Trump's just in the way.)
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To: Openurmind

The latest Windows 10 ALSO seemed to install McAfee anti-virus- which I DID NOT WANT because I like and pay for Avast.

I refuse to use McAfee for the reason you stated.

Back in the day I put in a 3.5 floppy disk that I had not used in like 5 years, and McAfee suddenly popped up saying it had a virus, and I had to pay to have it fixed. This was impossible because it was a newer virus on a 5 year old disk. I knew they were screwing around.


24 posted on 10/07/2019 11:04:53 AM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare itself.)
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To: dayglored

MS has warned against keeping old VMs. At my Job I held on as long as allowed.


25 posted on 10/07/2019 11:08:42 AM PDT by Harpotoo (Being a socialist is a lot easier than having to WORK like the rest of US:-))
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To: Openurmind

I don’t think so, but I staffed at Ignite last year in Orlando in the Azure booths and we were passing out these stickers with “Microsoft Hearts VMWare” to everyone.

The Server guys didn’t even have a Hyper-V booth.

I think it is just becoming an OS function/role, like Notepad or Fle Server.


26 posted on 10/07/2019 11:09:38 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (The media is after us. Trump's just in the way.)
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To: dayglored

To be fair VMWare workstation pro is up to version 15.5.


27 posted on 10/07/2019 11:12:18 AM PDT by miliantnutcase
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To: Mr. K

I have caught both Mcafee and Norton playing games like that many times over the years. I finally removed all antivirus ware from my system and just downloaded AVG about every six months to check my system then removed it. In the last ten years before installing linux I never got one virus even though I had no antivirus. I had lots when I did have either Mcafee or Norton installed. This result was self explanatory to me.


28 posted on 10/07/2019 11:14:16 AM PDT by Openurmind
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To: dayglored

My team has been running VMWare Workstation pro for years and it’s a solid product. We use it mainly to do app testing/OS testing etc. It’s cheaper than spinning up a VM on the Vsphere.


29 posted on 10/07/2019 11:16:30 AM PDT by miliantnutcase
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To: Alas Babylon!

I just don’t trust them, Their business model sucks and I wouldn’t put anything past them. The whole “incompetence” assumption with all this I don’t fall for at all. :)


30 posted on 10/07/2019 11:22:21 AM PDT by Openurmind
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To: miliantnutcase

Something to be aware of, if you runVMware Workstation on Linux. Workstation as of 15.x still uses a Linux kernel library function “gettimeofday()” which was deprecated long ago and finally removed in Kernel 5.x, which is used (for example) in the latest Ubuntu 18.04 LTS release. As a result, if you have Ubuntu 18.04, and want to run VMware Workstation, you either have to revert the Kernel to 4.x, or wait patiently for VMware to stop using an obsolete function. Very annoying.


31 posted on 10/07/2019 11:42:05 AM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government."`)
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To: dayglored

Thanks for the info! We’re primarily a Microsoft shop, but still good to know.


32 posted on 10/07/2019 1:53:17 PM PDT by miliantnutcase
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To: Openurmind

As I understand, the problem is Hyper-v which effectively disables VT-x or AMT-v hardware virtualization.

OS/2 virtuals and I understand some linux and ubuntu OSes which require hardware virtualization are affected.

There are posts about this on VirtualBox forums.


33 posted on 10/08/2019 11:29:10 AM PDT by FroggyTheGremlim ( The following statement is false. The previous statement is true.)
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To: eCSMaster

Thank you so much for your time to reply! As a linux/VB user I was very curious how an MS goof could indirectly affect Linux.


34 posted on 10/08/2019 11:46:02 AM PDT by Openurmind
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