Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Amber Guyger guilty of murdering black neighbor Botham Jean in his own home
The Guardian via Yahoo Noose ^ | October 2, 2019 | Tom Dart in Houston

Posted on 10/02/2019 9:33:26 AM PDT by Navy Patriot

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 281-287 next last
To: Vaquero

Just looked up this case. Turns out, Texas doesn’t have “degrees” of murder.

It has capital murder and murder.

Manslaughter is committed recklessly without intent to kill.

But she testified that, when she pointed her gun at the victim, she intended to kill him.

Under Texas law, that is murder. That’s why she faces 5 years to life.

(At least that’s what I think I read. Maybe some Texans here will correct me if I’m wrong.)

So sorry for the victim and his family.


41 posted on 10/02/2019 10:06:07 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: Gay State Conservative

“You don’t have to lecture me about violent death. “

What ‘lecture’?


42 posted on 10/02/2019 10:06:22 AM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 39 | View Replies]

To: DoodleDawg
She was in the apartment without the permission of the person residing there. That's breaking in.

That may,or may not,be true in the eyes of the law. But there are circumstances where it's *not* true in the eyes of reasonable,thoughtful adults.

43 posted on 10/02/2019 10:06:33 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (A joke: Brennan,Comey and Lynch walk into a Barr...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 38 | View Replies]

To: TexasGator

It’s not in the link that I accessed, unless it was on another page, which for some reason I couldn’t load.


44 posted on 10/02/2019 10:07:21 AM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: Gay State Conservative
That may,or may not,be true in the eyes of the law. But there are circumstances where it's *not* true in the eyes of reasonable,thoughtful adults.

Shouldn't a reasonable, thoughtful adult be following the law?

45 posted on 10/02/2019 10:08:04 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 43 | View Replies]

To: Tired of Taxes
That’s why she faces 5 years to life.

I'm almost certain that I've read that in Texas it's a *jury* that decides how a person is punished for a crime.I do believe that I've read of cases where a Texas jury has sentenced a person convicted of a serious crime to little or no punishment.

Of course a lawyer...particularly a Texas lawyer...might have something to say about my belief.

46 posted on 10/02/2019 10:10:57 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (A joke: Brennan,Comey and Lynch walk into a Barr...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 41 | View Replies]

To: Navy Patriot

This woman went into an innocent man’s home uninvited and killed him. She’s guilty. End of story. The rest is just obfuscation.


47 posted on 10/02/2019 10:13:15 AM PDT by fr_freak
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Gay State Conservative

“No motive = no “murder”...in my book at least. “

So if I go out a kill someone on the street on a whim with no motive that is not murder?


48 posted on 10/02/2019 10:14:09 AM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 39 | View Replies]

To: edwinland

Ditto


49 posted on 10/02/2019 10:15:17 AM PDT by SMARTY ("Nobility is defined by the demands it makes on us - by obligations, not by rights".)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: ought-six


It’s not in the link that I accessed, unless it was on another page, which for some reason I couldn’t load.”

It’s in the posted excerpt:

Amber Guyger faces a lengthy prison sentence after a jury found her guilty of the murder of Botham Jean in Dallas on 6 September last year


50 posted on 10/02/2019 10:16:41 AM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 44 | View Replies]

To: DoodleDawg
Shouldn't a reasonable, thoughtful adult be following the law?

Nope,not always. It's called "jury nullification".You've probably heard the term. But you may not know that many top legal scholars,including those involved in our early history,were supporters of it...in certain cases at least.

Not all prosecutors are entirely ethical.Not all witnesses are entirely correct...or honest.

Or let's put it another way...do you trust the ethical and patriotic intentions of the "prosecutors" in the House to treat the President fairly in the coming months?

No,I didn't think so.

51 posted on 10/02/2019 10:16:42 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (A joke: Brennan,Comey and Lynch walk into a Barr...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 45 | View Replies]

To: Thank You Rush

“How’d you react if some cop entered your home and shot you?”

She said she asked him to put his hands up or something like that and he didn’t, but if she didn’t think her life was threatened then shooting the guy was criminal.


52 posted on 10/02/2019 10:17:58 AM PDT by cymbeline
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: DoodleDawg

“She was in the apartment without the permission of the person residing there. That’s breaking in. “

IT MOST CERTAINLY NOT.


53 posted on 10/02/2019 10:18:17 AM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 38 | View Replies]

To: Navy Patriot

They just had to put “black” in the Title.


54 posted on 10/02/2019 10:19:05 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Gay State Conservative

It seems that, yes, in Texas, a defendant can ask for the jury to decide sentencing...?

More here:

https://www.avvo.com/legal-guides/ugc/ten-odd-things-about-texas-criminal-trials


55 posted on 10/02/2019 10:23:54 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 46 | View Replies]

To: Gay State Conservative
That is correct. Also no degree's of murder in Texas.

I followed the case pretty closely. I believe she DID make the mistake of fact thinking it was her apartment... but rather than secure the only entrance/exit, wait for help or give verbal commands she though "This person has picked the wrong person to pick on, I"m going to open that door and punish whoever it is broke into my home..." That's my take on her motive, which makes it murder by Texas law.
56 posted on 10/02/2019 10:26:07 AM PDT by TexasGunLover
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 46 | View Replies]

To: TexasGator

We’re not talking about the charge of murder, because we know she was convicted of that. We are talking about in WHAT DEGREE! First degree? Second Degree? Third Degree?


57 posted on 10/02/2019 10:30:24 AM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 50 | View Replies]

To: dfwgator
They just had to put “black” in the Title.

It's The Guardian, they don't miss a chance to denigrate America, and Yahoo is glad to help.

58 posted on 10/02/2019 10:30:36 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (America NEEDS Mob Rule, another European and Mid East World War and a universal Draft)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 54 | View Replies]

To: subterfuge

Local prosecutors ginned up the charges to make black race-baiters happy.


59 posted on 10/02/2019 10:30:49 AM PDT by tbw2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: ought-six
WHAT DEGREE!

Texas does not have legal degrees of murder.
60 posted on 10/02/2019 10:31:46 AM PDT by TexasGunLover
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 57 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 281-287 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson