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To: RummyChick

A couple of things...

One guy here claims it is an F-35. Unless F-35s tumble through the sky (as seen on the video) that is a big no.

We can tell if an object is “extraterrestrial” by running tests to see if it has been exposed to cosmic rays. This does not mean “alien”, it means it came from somewhere other than earth or has spent a significant period of time in space. This is one of the methods we use to determine if a rock is a meteorite or just a regular rock.

Supposedly, these materials have not only been exposed to cosmic rays, but are of alloys that are unfamiliar to us. Their composite materials are on our periodic table, but they are combined in a way we did not know was possible.

There are all kinds of theories as to why this stuff is being made known now. I think there are several reasons:

1. There has been a long term plan for to acclimate people to the idea that life exists elsewhere. Star Trek, Star Wars, et al, have been getting us used to the idea that there are aliens. Fifty years ago people would have panicked, now they would be much more accepting.

2. The secret is getting out anyway. You can only keep something this big quiet for so long. I think that the government wants to release the info on their terms.

3. One of the technologies “discovered” by us, or “given” to us (depending on who you talk to) is a clean source of nearly unlimited power. This will destabilize governments around the world. While the end result will be great, the transition will be really painful and violent.

4. I am not convinced that these are beings from another world. Our recorded civilization is but a few thousand years old. Depending on who you believe, we may have been physically homo sapiens for as long back as 50,000 to 100,000 years (or longer). If our civilization was able to rise in, lets say, 4,000 years, that means there could have been as many as 12 to 24 civilizations like ours in that time frame. Maybe one of the previous civilizations was technically advanced enough to leave the earth and is keeping an eye on the old homestead.

I am not ruling out that the unidentified craft belong to our own (or a foreign) government.

I do think that if you reject all of this out of hand you are a close minded fool.


38 posted on 09/30/2019 8:58:22 AM PDT by Crusher138 ("Then conquer we must, for our cause it is just")
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To: Crusher138

Regardingn the display of the F-18... Dr. Travis Taylor, Aerospace Engineer noted a few observations:

- F-18 at roughly 30 degree continuous left bank... g-forces on pilot and airframe are a concern in a banking turn affecting airspeed and attitude, not to mention the pilot’s stress levels.

- Video from the pod is infra-red black hot, therefore the object’s skin temperature is much greater than surrounding air temperature.

- White halo surrounding the object is much cooler than the object and surrounding air temperature indicating that the propulsion system is not provided by a hot engine! If so, it would show up prominently trailing the object as heat waves. The halo stays consistent throughout the object’s movement.

- He stated that the halo “could be a magetic propulsion field generated around the craft by electromagnetic propulsion generator engines similar to those Bob Lazar described from the late ‘80’s.

- And he mentioned that Mr. Lazar had discussed the necessity for element 115 in order to make the reactions that would be required to generate such magnetic fields. Mr. Lazar had been ridiculed in the 80’s since “element 115 didn’t exist”... and after several years passed... lo and behold... element 115 does in fact exist.

- When the object left the viewing area of the F-18 IR pod while still in a turn, it departed at an astronomically high rate of acceleration... which would likely kill a human in our known existing equipment with our present level of technology. Hence, the F-18 was completely outclassed and unable to maintain the pursuit.


41 posted on 09/30/2019 9:47:22 AM PDT by Home-of-the-lazy-dog ("Leftists will stand before you and cut off their own head just to prove that they'll do it!")
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To: Crusher138
That's the best thought out summation of the issue I've ever read on FR. Well, that I remember anyway. Geriatricity has started to have the same impact on my memory as one of those Men In Black erase stick things.

60 posted on 09/30/2019 3:09:20 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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