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To: 21twelve

Yes. Thanks. Stenographers are very fast and accurate, by the way. With stenos on each side and translators to arrange the comments and replies perfectly chronologically, there’s accuracy. Wouldn’t presidents of nations have the best? Democrats have been dishonest about that issue.

Here’s the White House copy of the transcript of the call between President Trump and President Zelenskyy of Ukraine.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Unclassified09.2019.pdf

And here’s the White House copy of the leaker’s complaint. It looks like propaganda written by lawyers, journalists or other academic activists for public consumption. I’ve analyzed propaganda approaches for about 25 years as a learning experience.

https://intelligence.house.gov/uploadedfiles/20190812_-_whistleblower_complaint_unclass.pdf


37 posted on 09/29/2019 12:14:06 AM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: familyop

Thanks for giving the links to the Trump-Zelensky call, and the “Whistleblower” complaint.

I can agree w/ you that Whistleblower looks like propaganda, but it is something more. Is the CIA / deep state involved here? It is too neatly crafted. It should have stated facts specifically about the sources of his/her 2nd hand knowledge - “so-and-so told me this about such and such on this date.” Maybe that detail was in classified attachments referenced on page 1? Jay Sekulow claims the letter was written by lawyers ... I think he is right. Mr. Whistleblower should be able to support everything in his letter ...who (WH personnel), what, where details of everything written. Since he quoted US statutes and EO, understanding his background, in this area and others would have to be cross-examined. I am sure Whistleblower is a sophisticated person, but how sophisticated to remember all the details under oath? Expect the demokraps, unlike the other Whistleblower Lewinsky, attempt to protect Whistleblower’s identity in trying to bring down a POTUS.

Whistleblower cites page 6 the NY Times May 9th article that Guiliani planned to travel to the Ukraine to help Trump’s 2020 re-election bid. Giuliani neever said that in the article ... but the article said that Trump’s (unnamed) allies were pushing for this. Here is what Giuliani was quoted in NYT as saying on May 9:

““We’re not meddling in an election, we’re meddling in an investigation, which we have a right to do,” Mr. Giuliani said in an interview on Thursday when asked about the parallel to the special counsel’s inquiry.

“There’s nothing illegal about it,” he said. “Somebody could say it’s improper. And this isn’t foreign policy — I’m asking them to do an investigation that they’re doing already and that other people are telling them to stop. And I’m going to give them reasons why they shouldn’t stop it because that information will be very, very helpful to my client, and may turn out to be helpful to my government.”

Hence, there should be no surprise that July 25th Trump-Zelensky phone call the Crowdstrike and the Biden topics were there. The demokraps jumped the gun too early here ... they needed to wait until Giuliani collected the official non-public government investigation info and Trump used government only info in the 2020 campaign.

As Nancy Peloser has said - “No one is above the law.” Yepp, the illegal alien using Social Security numbers is not above the law, and neither is the Biden family. The demokraps are working overtime to prevent the truth (and possible prosecutions) about the Russian hoax from happening .... Kiev with its Russian ties may be the key.


85 posted on 09/29/2019 5:08:15 AM PDT by Susquehanna Patriot
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To: familyop
It looks like propaganda written by lawyers, journalists or other academic activists for public consumption

You are correct. Real whistleblower complaints list facts and let the reader come to a conclusion, like a police report. They don't start with the conclusion, as the supposed whistleblower complaint does, and then end up citing reports from 3rd parties and the press.

The most interesting part of the whole complaint is the first footnote where the author or authors go into why they think a classified phone call isn't.

Everybody should read the transcript and complaint for themselves to see just how corrupt the deep state operatives who drafted the complaint are.

102 posted on 09/29/2019 7:35:39 AM PDT by freeandfreezing
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