We could feed one million people living in colonies on Mars

.astronomy.com ^ | Wednesday, September 25, 2019 | Erika K. Carlson |

[PIF]

For protein there is always the inevitable rat.

[I want the USA back]

Stupid! Humans are not optimized for living on Mars! Radiation would kill us unless well shielded! Plus it’s wrong to force a baby to be born in an environment for which he is not suited, and preventing him from seeing the green hills of Earth and breathing the fresh air after a spring rain.

These people are complete idiots!

[simpson96]

You first, Ericka.

[Redwood71]

“.... it’s perfectly doable.”

Never said it wasn’t doable, for what it’s worth. But the removing of 1 million people isn’t going to make any real difference here.

There are 131.4 million births per year against the 55.3 million people who die each year. Which means that there is an excess of 76.1M people born faster than die. That rate is around 209K a day which means the million will be made up in less than a week. Hardly seems to be worth the effort as they will be back into the same problem and more by the following week they have now, and worse because the outpost on Mars requires tweaking we won’t be able to do while starving to death or killing each other trying not to. Gives being a cockroach a future, doesn’t it?

If they had considered this 50 years ago, and already had farms on Mars, the moon, or any other planet that could be sustainable, it might have worked. But that canoe is downstream without the paddle. And they tried to load too many in it and it has sunk.

rwood

[familyop]

In my comment, I was joking in reference to the free classic short story behind the link.

The Marching Morons by C. M. Kornbluth
https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/51233

If you read it, you’ll see why I didn’t simply spoil the story by explaining the joke. It’s worth the read and says a few things about society and politics today. Look for the parts about Venus.

Some folks believe that they would want to go to Mars. I lived at a high elevation in a semi-arid place for quite a while and am well educated in small power plants (solar and other), alternative heating systems and health maintenance. Going to Mars for real for colonization and efforts to permanently establish residence would be a terrible mistake except for people who like cancer and other health problems.

As for the human population on earth, it will be naturally corrected. There’s no use in mankind to trying to intervene. The political struggles to move equatorial populations to the north are hilarious and antithetical.

As for the hoax about anthropomorphic climate change, that is not only unethical. It’s a tactical error. The crooked punks in academia publish hysteria to continue their racket for grants.

The extended solar minimum will not kill us all. Some of us have ancestors who were in the northeastern U.S. long before it was the U.S. They did fine with farming.

The magnetic field shift will not kill us all, either. The more rapid movement and weak spots have been appearing for quite a few years with the consequent methane leaks, weak protection against rays and other effects.

We’re already in it. Anyone in a panic about the natural changes in progress should build bedrooms with facilities under three feet of soil and/or concrete and clam down. The structures will also make good fallout shelters when needed (due to the hippie anti-defense foolishness in popular fiction and politics for so long, making the U.S.A. look like it wants to be attacked by expansionist enemy nations).

Or look at it this way. The natural climate changes that we can’t do anything substantive about will decrease the global population. So would a sizable epidemic...or asteroid strike...or nuclear exchange followed by the inevitable mother of all conventional wars. Problem solved.

[Redwood71]

“..or nuclear exchange followed by the inevitable mother of all conventional wars.”

Most likely this one. And this can go two ways: either they use nuclear which will destroy most everything to eat or growing place anyway, or they have that conventional war using weapons that do about the same thing only on a slower pace like NBC. (And they will play with each other’s toys)

This is not going to be a matter of whoever has the most toys at the end wins. All the toys will be broken. And we will dispose of ourselves. And before anyone reading this says we have the constraint not to, there is a list of countries now called rogue. Think they got that status from being smart?

rwood