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Hearing today over ONE unemployment check (Texas) the company refuses to pay. Any advice?
Personal | 14 September 2019 | Mene Mene Tekel Upharsin

Posted on 09/24/2019 4:45:07 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Company let me go for no real reason early this summer. Prior to finding another job, had requested ONE unemployment check and the company doesn't want to pay it. This is in Texas. Have hearing this morning on the phone at 7:30 a.m. - any advice from knowledgeable Freepers? My brother, who is a manager, said to stay calm and just stick to the facts. So, will do at least that.


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1 posted on 09/24/2019 4:45:07 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

I never believe anyone when they say they were let go for no reason There’s always a reason even if you don’t like it.

There is a one week waiting period before unemployment can kick in. If you have a job during that time you get zero


2 posted on 09/24/2019 4:52:37 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Also, if you are an independant contractor rather than a true employee you are not eligible. Also, some companies refute every claim as a matter of course to keep their Unemployment Insurance costs down.

Certain industries attract people who would rather draw un-employment.

If you were fired for cause, I think you are not eligible. Also, if you resigned I believe you are not eligible.


3 posted on 09/24/2019 4:58:35 AM PDT by willyd (I for one welcome our NSA overlords)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

If Texas is an at will work state they don’t need any reason

Usually people are let go because they don’t fit in, they’re not producing enough, the company is down sizing. Less often people are let go for theft, harassment, disobeying the boss


4 posted on 09/24/2019 4:58:52 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Did they give you a reason for letting you go? There is a difference between getting laid off and fired for cause.
5 posted on 09/24/2019 4:59:35 AM PDT by CaptainK ('No collusion, no obstruction, he's a leaker')
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

The government is on your side. They want you to collect. If there is any way they will make it happen.


6 posted on 09/24/2019 5:01:40 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Nifster
No real reason to be let go. Reasons for reprimand and correction while learning procedures, but not termination. Other employees made the same mistakes but were a not talked to harshly as I was, written up nor suspended. Was enduring harassment by others while outselling them. In last month of selling, outsold ALL new hires by $40,000 or more and outsold at least 3 long term employees. So, to some degree, you are correct, there was a reason, but it was not honorable.

Did have a job within 2 weeks. Was called by a competitor (did not apply) and asked to come to work. That company is treating me well and glad I am there doing the very same thing and using the very same software. Nice not to have to retrain. Applied for one unemployment check and was denied. Appealing.

7 posted on 09/24/2019 5:05:25 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Nifster
Sounds like the company let you go at their convenience. Ergo, they’re on the hook for paying UE benefits.

I know from personal experience, companies will appeal it to the bitter end. They don’t want to see their rate go up, so they drag it out, hoping you give up.

Keep your cool, stick to the facts.

8 posted on 09/24/2019 5:05:33 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Gonzales! Come and Take It!)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Have the company and the state of Texas refused to give you a written explanation as to why your claim was denied?

Sounds very strange.

Post their written decision here at Free Republic when you get one.

I always learn new things when issues like this come up.


9 posted on 09/24/2019 5:06:23 AM PDT by zeestephen
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Usually people are let go because they don’t fit in,

Probably more this than anything else. Am not a heavy smoker, don't use curse words for adjectives and go to work early and leave late. Yeah, didn't fit in, I guess. lol. Going to try for that one check as a matter of principle anyway.

10 posted on 09/24/2019 5:07:26 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: zeestephen
Have the company and the state of Texas refused to give you a written explanation as to why your claim was denied?

Called me on the phone (was working from home) at 5:00 p.m. to tell me. Didn't want to discuss it over the phone. Just done, you're gone.

11 posted on 09/24/2019 5:08:33 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

I’ve been through this so maybe I can help.

If you don’t have one ask the representative of the company if they have a copy of the Employee handbook available. If they do ask them to run down the process for termination of an employee. If they didn’t follow it to the letter you will win.

Specifically ask for copies of any warnings given whether they were verbal or in writing. Ask for dates, who issued the warnings, why they were issued, and how they documented it. If the warnings were written ask for certified copies submitted under penalty of perjury.

If they don’t have one ask the hearing officer to delay the proceeding until they produce one for you to review. If the company rep balks ask the hearing officer to issue a subpoena for it. They have that power.

Trust me, they’ll fold like a cheap lawn chair.

Good luck.

L


12 posted on 09/24/2019 5:11:12 AM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Your BIL gives excellent advice. Do NOT speak unless spoken to by the administrator. Good luck.


13 posted on 09/24/2019 5:15:37 AM PDT by SanchoP
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Thank you very much. Just got a call from the state. The administrator called in sick. The state is trying to find a replacement or may reschedule the hearing.


14 posted on 09/24/2019 5:17:10 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Some times, denial of unemployment claims is an automatic. Companies do this to see if you are “really” going to file a claim.


15 posted on 09/24/2019 5:18:42 AM PDT by taxcontrol (Stupid should hurt - dad's wisdom)
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Man, thanks. This company will not fold. Pretty hard core bunch. I worked for his brother at another place for five years. We go along fine. However, after 20 months at this new place, office politics got going and this brother wouldn’t put a stop to it. Hostile work environment. God will take care of us.... thanks.


16 posted on 09/24/2019 5:19:26 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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It’s been decades since I was a Union Vice President so my memory isn’t all that good on this stuff but I seem to recall in situations like this there is a government appointed person whose title I cannot recall that one can contact in these situations. They don’t automatically get involved you have to contact them. I wish I could remember the tittle of the office but I can’t. IIRC if you get them involved the company usually folds because bringing them in gets the government on your side. Maybe some other freeper can help.


17 posted on 09/24/2019 5:21:56 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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Forget principle. Effort better spent on new job.


18 posted on 09/24/2019 5:23:07 AM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
but were a not talked to harshly as I was, written up nor suspended.

If you have a write up and suspension in the file, they'll probably be able to make the 'fired for cause' stick. They'll argue that they tried progressive discipline. Take comfort in the fact that the contested hearing will probably cost them more than you getting one week's unemployment will.

Good luck.

19 posted on 09/24/2019 5:23:59 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: wastoute

EEOC?


20 posted on 09/24/2019 5:26:21 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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