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Pandemic could kill up to 80 million people -- and the world isn't ready, experts say
KCCI ^ | 09/18/2019

Posted on 09/18/2019 1:05:14 PM PDT by BenLurkin

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To: Grampa Dave

Welcome to my nightmare...


61 posted on 09/18/2019 3:13:48 PM PDT by null and void (<---powered by warm sunshine and gentle breezes and unicorn farts, don't forget the unicorn farts!)
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To: RandallFlagg

From “The Stand” (Stephen King)


62 posted on 09/18/2019 3:18:35 PM PDT by Ronniesque
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To: Ronniesque

:-D


63 posted on 09/18/2019 3:19:24 PM PDT by Ronniesque
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To: BenLurkin

No doubt the answer to this problem is....Rape America!,
S/


64 posted on 09/18/2019 3:19:26 PM PDT by right way right (May we remain sober over mere men, for God really is our only true hope.)
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To: Ronniesque

But, seriously...the bugs are getting more resistant and that worries me.


65 posted on 09/18/2019 3:22:25 PM PDT by Ronniesque
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To: null and void
I’m at a loss to see how keeping sick people away from children costs children’s lives.

When you restrict travel with a quarantine, it costs.

Perhaps you restrict a sick child from going somewhere else where they need lifesaving care.

Perhaps you prevent a child from escaping an abusive situation.

Any economic cost is potentially fatal on the margins.

If the quarantine only saves one life, it may not be worth it.

There are enough people with severe adverse reactions to vaccines, for example, that you have to balance costs and benefits.

It is easy to consider obvious benefits and to ignore less obvious costs.

I was pointing out the human tendency for that.

In a way, it was a parody of liberal logic.

I am wary of any argument that says "If it just saves one life..."

66 posted on 09/18/2019 3:23:36 PM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: null and void

Thanks.

My Dad survived the 1918 Spanish Flu and his brother caught it and died after visiting my dad in an army hospital at the age of 29 and basically never ill in his life.

My Dad was recovering from a severe motorcycle accident in an Army Hospital.


67 posted on 09/18/2019 3:24:17 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (The line that separates satire and Democrats and Stupidity has vanished. (thanks to jonascord)!)
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To: trisham
since the 80's we've been lectured that Africa will loose most of fits population due to AIDS...

it hasn't....

and even with their vast number of killer viruses, frequent famines, drought,endless violence by muzzies and others, the population never seems to diminish, and the same old problems just keep going on and on and on

68 posted on 09/18/2019 3:28:22 PM PDT by cherry
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To: null and void
If a quarantine saves just one child's life, it's worth it.,?b>

If shutting down Abortion Clinics could save just one child's life, isn't it worth it?

69 posted on 09/18/2019 3:30:10 PM PDT by Starstruck (I'm usually sarcastic. Deal with it.)
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To: trisham
"I’m concerned about the future. It seems to me that something catastrophic may be in the future."

of all catastrophes that could occur, I am much more afraid of a totalitarian takeover of this country, similar to Cuba where everything was taken from the nonconformist....similar to what is happening in south africa.....

killed for your religion, killed for your skin, killed because you got what your sloth neighbors want.

70 posted on 09/18/2019 3:34:55 PM PDT by cherry
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To: marktwain
In a way, it was a parody of liberal logic.

"If a quarantine saves just one child's life, it's worth it." was as well.

The left was fond of using that phrase to push their agenda.

If banning eating meat saves...
If confiscating all guns saves...
If eliminating private cars saves...

Curiously enough, "If stopping abortions saves just one child's life..." was said by no liberal ever!

Turn their language abuse against them!

71 posted on 09/18/2019 3:36:51 PM PDT by null and void (<---powered by warm sunshine and gentle breezes and unicorn farts, don't forget the unicorn farts!)
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To: BenLurkin

Women, minorities, LGBTQ community hardest hit.


72 posted on 09/18/2019 3:37:31 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (Ban liberals, NOT guns.)
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To: Starstruck

Precisely, see post 71!


73 posted on 09/18/2019 3:38:00 PM PDT by null and void (<---powered by warm sunshine and gentle breezes and unicorn farts, don't forget the unicorn farts!)
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To: DownInFlames
Out of 7 billion? Peanuts.

A grand total of 6 people have died from tinkering with non-manufacturer vape solutions. (THC in oil rather than nicotine in water based solutions)

Compare to the 480,000 or so who die of tobacco related illnesses every year.

Which industry is about to have the full weight of the federal government attempt to crush it?

74 posted on 09/18/2019 3:43:37 PM PDT by null and void (<---powered by warm sunshine and gentle breezes and unicorn farts, don't forget the unicorn farts!)
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To: Ronniesque
"But, seriously...the bugs are getting more resistant and that worries me."

we've had what...less than a century with modern day antibiotics.....

we've been spoiled....

just like deer in the woods when they get too plentiful their numbers are trimmed thru biological processes.....wolves or coyotes attack the fawns...diseases such as blue tongue or chronic wasting disease proliferate....

many millions of people that would have died due to their comorbidities. have been kept alive....

but we will return to the days that when you had a stroke at age 85,and get pneumonia, you might just not make it.

the antibiotics might be useless and viruses are not even affected by antibiotics...

that is really the biological norm.....

we should try to stay as healthy as possible so our bodies aren't opportunities for infection.

75 posted on 09/18/2019 3:50:32 PM PDT by cherry
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To: BenLurkin

Blah, blah, blah. Spanish flu. Blah, blah, blah.


76 posted on 09/18/2019 3:52:58 PM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: cherry; All
we've been spoiled....

Yes, we live in a golden age, especially in the United States.

But even in China, for the last 30 years, they have never had it so good.

Most of the world is far better off than it was 75 years ago.

77 posted on 09/18/2019 3:58:02 PM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: BenLurkin

Wow, they have 3-layer bags for Ebola.


78 posted on 09/18/2019 3:59:01 PM PDT by rfp1234 (Obscured by Clods)
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To: redgolum

Some might remember a PBS series called “Connections; With James Burke” from the late 1970s.

It was excellent. One of the insights that you could gather from it is the danger of becoming over-reliant on technology while not preparing for what will happen if there is a system failure.

Technology and innovation is great, but it isn’t foolproof. JIT and globalization bring their own risks.


79 posted on 09/18/2019 4:06:48 PM PDT by Pelham (Secure Voter ID. Mexico has it, because unlike us they take voting seriously)
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To: cherry; Ronniesque

“but we will return to the days that when you had a stroke at age 85,and get pneumonia, you might just not make it.”

Worse than that. Through misuse of antibiotics we have created resistant germ strains and we are likely headed to a post-antibiotic future. Infections that have been curable no longer will be.


80 posted on 09/18/2019 4:12:40 PM PDT by Pelham (Secure Voter ID. Mexico has it, because unlike us they take voting seriously)
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