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You can never get up if you have to hold the other SOB down.
1 posted on 09/16/2019 7:28:11 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT
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Very interesting. Thanks for posting.


2 posted on 09/16/2019 7:32:04 AM PDT by PGalt
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Once this diesel particle ‘crisis’ came up....the car-makers were everyone’s whipping boy. Toss in the fury by the environmental folks to force everyone to dump their gas/diesel cars. Two months ago, various car-makers were saying that the show in Frankfurt would be the last one. The protest movement from the past five days has virtually guaranteed that this show is finished in Frankfurt.


3 posted on 09/16/2019 7:35:20 AM PDT by pepsionice
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Of the many factors mentioned for the decline, we should also consider the fact that there are few cars out there that are not fugly.

Really.

A game I have played for years when going through a parking lot is to ask which cars there would I want to be seen in back in the golden years of Detroit. Yup, we all know the answer.

Yes, the new ones are certainly much improved. But they have the visual appeal of Hillary Clinton.


4 posted on 09/16/2019 7:38:17 AM PDT by Da Coyote (eh)
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I have a deposit down on the new 2020 Mid Engine Corvette.

It looks like they are already road testing a Hybrid Gas Electric Model even though the standard Gas powered 2020 Model hasn’t even begun Production yet.

I’m sure an all electric Model is already on the Drawing Board.

It’s the wave of the future. Unfortunately, most of the Rare Earth Minerals needed to make the Batteries come from China.


5 posted on 09/16/2019 7:39:08 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Democracy, two Wolves and one Sheep deciding what's for Dinner.)
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"There will be a major challenge for next year" concerning electrics, Audi CEO Bram Schot said last week. "You need a consumer willing to pay."

Not only that, but you need taxpayers willing to pay for massive upgrades to the power generation and distribution infrastructure.

But the biggest problem is Brussels.

The EU needs to be disbanded.


6 posted on 09/16/2019 7:43:15 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (The Electoral College is the firewall protecting us from massive blue state vote fraud.)
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Trump evening the tariff playing field with Euro cars has changed everything.


8 posted on 09/16/2019 7:53:27 AM PDT by montag813
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European politicians and the media are pressuring car manufacturers to switch to electric cars. We are seeing a lot of them now where we live. They would not exist without government subsidies. Why? Because just the electric car battery costs as much as a cheap car, typically weighs over a thousand pounds and most do not store as much energy as contained in a couple of gallons of gas. It is not that hard to understand... batteries are still a very inefficient energy storage medium compared to gasoline or diesel. Electric cars are a non-solution to a problem (global warming) that does not exist.

They will start to disappear as soon as the world enters into an undeniable cyclic cooling trend that by many indications is already starting. I wouldn’t hold my breath however, because we are about to witness who the real “climate deniers” are. A cooling climate has always been a far greater threat to humanity than a warming climate. We will witness early snows, crop failures, and frozen orange groves in Florida for years before the media stops fawning over every string of sunny days in Arizona.


12 posted on 09/16/2019 8:07:27 AM PDT by fireman15
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The Las Vegas electronic show used to be a really big thing.

The Internet makes trade shows unneccessary.

Eurothugs can make anything unpleasant.


18 posted on 09/16/2019 8:52:20 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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Always look to the next opportunity. Europe is headed for a camel and donkey shortage before they know it.


19 posted on 09/16/2019 8:55:51 AM PDT by sphinx
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Do you want to drive a small electric in a highway full of 6,000 pound vehicles driven by technology distracted idiots?

Big vehicles would have to be taxed to extinction to make small electrics a viable choice.

Also mobile technology needs to be disabled in vehicles and busy roads to make electric cars viable.


20 posted on 09/16/2019 8:58:42 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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The cloud of electrification, and its acceptance, hangs over Europe.

The cloud consists of legally enforced electrification on a less than eager public. Clearly the buyers must be punished until they are happy.

25 posted on 09/16/2019 9:07:40 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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For the last few years I've made it a point to attend the NY Auto Show in April. This year I was surprised to see that BMW wasn't there.
40 posted on 09/16/2019 10:25:39 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (A joke: Brennan,Comey and Lynch walk into a Barr...)
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I’m waiting for the electric F250 pick up. I would love to test drive it and I was talking to my friend who is a Ford dealer. He said that it’ll tow my boat, but I want to make sure. The Rivan SUV looks good, too...


41 posted on 09/16/2019 10:31:43 AM PDT by Deplorable American1776 (Proud to be a DeplorableAmerican with a Deplorable Family...even the dog is, too. :-))
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These shows are unnecessary. It's like years ago when all new music would be released on Tuesday. Now, music is released whenever they want.

Why would car companies need to go to this show when they can put cars on their own websites for free and do other social media events that cost next to nothing? Europe is also regulating itself into extinction.

58 posted on 09/16/2019 1:42:40 PM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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I thought this was going to be about book publishing.


68 posted on 09/16/2019 5:14:23 PM PDT by firebrand
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