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At least 22 people injured after three-story deck collapse in New Jersey
Fox News ^ | Morgan Phillips

Posted on 09/15/2019 8:09:28 AM PDT by BenLurkin

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1 posted on 09/15/2019 8:09:28 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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The deck probably had way more people on it than it was designed for.


2 posted on 09/15/2019 8:16:41 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit)
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3 posted on 09/15/2019 8:16:45 AM PDT by Liz (Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use. conclusive)
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To: BenLurkin

Appeared to me, in the footage on Fox this morning, that the ledger boards showed a lot of nails, but I didn’t see where any lag bolts tore loose.
Very substandard construction, if this is true.


4 posted on 09/15/2019 8:35:20 AM PDT by Fireone (Build the gallows first, then the wall!)
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What are the odds the contractor that built the deck used illegal labor, and if willing to cut costs on payroll, was also willing to cut costs on materials?


5 posted on 09/15/2019 8:37:47 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: BenLurkin

It’s time to ban high capacity decks.


6 posted on 09/15/2019 8:42:56 AM PDT by IndispensableDestiny
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To: BenLurkin

I see these stories from time to time. Balcony + Party = Collapse. Stay the hell away from any such combo.


7 posted on 09/15/2019 8:43:03 AM PDT by csvset (tolerance becomes a crime when attached to evil)
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To: BenLurkin

Math and engineering is hard and expensive.

And what is the worst that can happen anyways?


8 posted on 09/15/2019 8:51:55 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with islamic terrorists - they want to die for allah and we want to kill them.)
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Decks likely not designed per code.

They had me engineer mine for 20 people AND a 3 foot snow load....

I never had a party in 3 feet of snow with 20 people on the deck....

9 posted on 09/15/2019 8:52:25 AM PDT by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: G Larry

Well, you should try it, naked:-)


10 posted on 09/15/2019 8:54:08 AM PDT by crosdaddy
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They will find:

undersized posts,

bad framing installation,

poor foundation.

11 posted on 09/15/2019 8:59:07 AM PDT by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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One would have to be CRAZY to stand on a suspended in New Jersey, considering the way building inspectors are paid off.


12 posted on 09/15/2019 9:00:14 AM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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“They will find:
undersized posts,
bad framing installation,
poor foundation.”

What they won’t find is any grease, as in greased palms. But if they do a little ‘lifestyle audit’ on the building inspector, they’ll at least get plenty of circumstantial.


13 posted on 09/15/2019 9:01:37 AM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: G Larry

And likely no permit.


14 posted on 09/15/2019 9:01:59 AM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds)
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“What are the odds the contractor that built the deck used illegal labor, and if willing to cut costs on payroll, was also willing to cut costs on materials?”

Not to defend Illegals, but they generally do a damn good job, providing that they are properly supervised by their lead, who is almost always legal. At least that’s been my experience. I’ll take them any day over the Soy Boys that we would otherwise be stuck with.


15 posted on 09/15/2019 9:07:28 AM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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Look up Randall Nathan San francisco-deck collapse.


16 posted on 09/15/2019 9:11:25 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: csvset

I’ve thought that for a long time.


17 posted on 09/15/2019 9:17:44 AM PDT by leaning conservative (snow coming, school cancelled, yayyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: G Larry

The pictures online were showing rotting wood.Mostly First Responders and their Families were hurt :(.


18 posted on 09/15/2019 9:21:15 AM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: Joe 6-pack

This is where building inspectors are supposed to earn their money. Permits are purchased, and inspectors are supposed to oversee proper stages of construction. Someone here, clearly has responsibility, and should answer for this.


19 posted on 09/15/2019 9:22:08 AM PDT by Fireone (Build the gallows first, then the wall!)
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To: BenLurkin
My husband and I planned a 4-day weekend trip to Cape May for September 13th through 17th 2001, the 17th being our wedding anniversary. Of course Tuesday September 11th was the day of the Islamist terrorist attack on America. We thought about cancelling the trip but went ahead once the hotel confirmed they were still open and it was too late to cancel our reservation without forfeiting our deposit.

It was also the weekend of the NJ State Firefighters convention that year.

It was the strangest time and place to take a holiday.

Pretty much everyone walking around Cape May was subdued and solemn. We saw a lot of firefighters and their families as Wildwood is just a short drive from Cape May and likely many staying in or visiting the town for the convention.

I saw a lot of people crying and also saw a lot of people hugging one another. We drove up to Wildwood and saw all the firetrucks and hotel balconies draped in American flags and black bunting. We walked down to the beach to see formations fighter jets flying up and down the coast on patrol. And if you looked north from Cape May, up the coast, you could see faintly, but noticeably the plume of smoke still rising from Ground Zero. Anywhere there was a TV, people gathered to watch the latest news reports. We heard about a candlelight vigil in Cape May and went. I was crying, nearly everyone was and people, complete strangers would just walk up to you and give you a hug. Many of the stores were giving out the candles for free and many had small American hand held flags, some were selling them but most were giving them away until they ran out.

There was also a vigil and prayer service taking place the next night in Wildwood but we decided not to go as we were already so emotionally drained.

We took the Cape May Ferry back to Maryland that Sunday on our way to Salisbury MD to visit my SIL, saw the bomb sniffing dogs and National Guardsmen inspecting all cars before being allowed onto the ferry. On our drive through the Maryland Eastern Shore, every overpass had American flags on them and we couldn’t count the number of American Flags on cars and trucks, on houses and businesses as we drove by. At my SIL’s house we watched the news coverage. We did manage a round of golf with my SIL and her husband, but truthfully no one’s heart was really into it.

I remember on the drive home saying to my husband of our trip and to quote Dicken’s – “It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness, it was the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of incredulity, it was the season of Light, it was the season of Darkness, it was the spring of hope, it was the winter of despair”.

Anyway, this event brought back one of my many memories of 9/11. My heart goes out to those injured and their families.

20 posted on 09/15/2019 9:24:24 AM PDT by MD Expat in PA
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