Posted on 09/01/2019 6:10:50 AM PDT by BobL
Absolutely. LOL!
Here’s something I learned about butter vs margerine when I read “Fit for Life”.
Very simple.
Which is the easiest to wash off?
Butter. Oleo and Crisco are extremely difficult to wash off.
Butter is the one you should be eating.
Be honest, you Googled that document and thought it makes your point (it doesn’t) but, in truth, you have no idea what the writing on it means.
You are looking at a different study. I don’t have a link. The study I’m talking about can be found in books. Don’t have time to dig them out right now.
For me, it is very simple: I know what diet approach results in my losing weight and feeling good: A combination of intermittent fasting and lower-carb, higher fat.
You have not a single shred of evidence to back you up.
I provide everything to back myself up.
I have read the complete opposite to your baseless assertions and I provided my proof to disprove you.
I figured that if I couldn’t pronounce it, I wouldn’t eat it.
I need to provide a link to show you that if you eat a high-fat, low-calorie diet, your body will produce ketone bodies as it burns fat and that this can trigger metabolic acidosis? If you'd ever studied biochemistry, specifically the Krebs Cycle, you would know this to be a fact.
The ketogenic diet first became popular 100 years ago and was used mostly to treat patients with childhood epilepsy. They found that it reduced the number of seizures experienced in some patients. This diet was high in fat and low in carbohydrates and protein, and one of the potential side effects was metabolic acidosis. This has been a possible adverse effect of the ketogenic diet for a century. People who promote the diet to others should be aware of this.
Be honest, Mase....you didn’t provide a source for YOUR own ‘fact’.
Please provide a legitimate source/study that backs up your ‘keto is hard on kidneys’ and causes ‘Metabolic acidosis’ claim.
TIA.
Since your stated goal is making people healthier, don't you think you should study it specifically? If and when you do, you'll learn that many amino acids leave you with three carbon units that the body metabolizes as a fatty acids because only two carbon units can enter the Krebs cycle. When these three carbon units are broken downs as fatty acids, ketones are created that can lead to metabolic acidosis. So, yeah, high protein diets can be hard on your kidneys. Again, this has been known and taught to students of biochemistry for a long, long time.
Metabolic acidosis does not happen from a low carb diet.
Period.
No studies, no links.
I’m done feeding the TROLL here. Not worth our time.
LOL. Yeah, right. If I burn more energy than I consume, I'll gain weight. That's why the Americans found loads of overweight concentration camp survivors when they liberated them during WWII.
Finally, doctors for >100 years have attributed extreme obesity to the consumption of unnecessary carbohydrates, fats and amino acids.
Fixed it for you.
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/324237.php
https://www.webmd.com/diabetes/type-1-diabetes-guide/what-is-ketosis
From the second link:
Ketoacidosis
If you have uncontrolled diabetes, ketosis can become dangerous when ketones build up. High levels lead to dehydration and change the chemical balance of your blood. It becomes acidic and can cause a coma or death.
People with diabetes can get ketoacidosis, or diabetic ketoacidosis (DKA), when they don't take enough insulin. They can also get DKA when they're sick or injured or they don't get enough fluids and become dehydrated.
Some people without diabetes can get ketoacidosis, too. It's caused by alcoholism, starvation, or an overactive thyroid. A healthy low-carb diet shouldn't cause a problem.
A lot of us USING a low-carb, high fat diet are getting very good results.
Ketones? “The ketone level in diabetic ketoacidosis typically exceeds 200mg/dl, compared with the 5 mg/dl ketone levels that are typically experienced after an overnight fast....and the 5-20 mg/dl ketone levels of a severely carbohydrate-restricted diet with only 5-10% carbohydrates.” - The Diet Delusion by Gary Taubes
Also see: https://perfectketo.com/keto-healthy-ketosis-vs-ketoacidosis/
https://www.healthline.com/health/ketosis-vs-ketoacidosis#diagnosis
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/324237.php
“Nutritional ketosis occurs when there is not enough carbohydrate in the diet to meet the body’s energy requirements. In this situation, the body switches over from burning sugar to burning fat as its main fuel.
Fat, whether from the diet or the body’s stores, is broken down into ketones in the liver. These ketones are an efficient energy source for many organs, particularly the brain.
Everyone has ketones in their blood at very low levels, under normal conditions. When the body enters ketosis, and so switches to burning mostly fat, levels of ketones in the blood increase.
Groups at greater risk of ketoacidosis
Some people are at risk of ketoacidosis.
Groups at risk of ketoacidosis include, but is not limited to, people with:
Type 1 diabetes
Cystic fibrosis-related diabetes
Pancreatectomy
Type 2 diabetes with very little pancreatic function
It is possible, and can be beneficial, for people in these groups to follow a ketogenic lifestyle. However, it is important that your doctor is aware of your intention before you start.”
https://www.diabetes.co.uk/blood-glucose/ketosis.html
“For most people, the ketones that form as a normal product of fat burning and weight loss are nothing to be concerned about because they are simply burned for energy by the body, and any excess are passed out of the body in the urine. In fact, while the brain normally uses glucose for energy, during exercise — and particularly during long-distance events like marathons, when glucose reserves may drop very low — the brain can use ketones for energy. Your liver makes extra ketones when glucose reserves are low so that your brain has enough energy.
For people with Type 1 diabetes, however, having measurable amounts of ketones in the urine or blood is cause for concern. Ketones in a person with Type 1 diabetes may be a sign that his diabetes is out of control, he is ill or has an infection or he is under extreme stress. Because above-normal levels of ketones in the blood can lead to diabetic ketoacidosis, a life-threatening condition, people with Type 1 diabetes who have measurable ketones in their blood or urine should speak with their diabetes educator or doctor promptly.”
The consumption of caffeine drives the release of insulin. Therefore, consuming large amounts of coffee leads to Type 2 diabetes. I'll wait for your study showing that connection.
Heck, you can’t even post a link.
Again, it is surprising you function well enough to lie in your comments.
No one can live on air. If calories are cut severely enough & long enough, you lose weight on ANY mixture of nutrients. But for those of us who are not on a near-starvation diet (my wife when she was young and poor in Asia) or in a concentration camp, we make CHOICES.
Someone who is satisfied and either not hungry or hungry with no other side effects will stay on a diet. When I tried losing weight - many times - using a low fat diet, I had terrible headaches, cravings, became weak, light-headed, etc. SO I QUIT. The diet wasn’t worth the pain.
On a lower-carb, higher fat diet, including saturated fats, eggs, cheese, etc, I DO get hungry. But I can also work out without a problem after going 20+ hours without eating. Don’t get light-headed. Don’t feel weak. Don’t have cravings or severe headaches. So...guess which diet works for me?
I don’t care what others do IF IT WORKS FOR THEM. Someone who is slender, energetic and happy on a low fat diet? Isn’t that wonderful! Keep at it - if it works. But I spent decades dieting, quitting, getting fat again, dieting, quitting, getting fat again. Intermittent fasting, 18-20 hours a day, with lower carbs and higher fat is EASY for me. And it works. I fully expect to do it for the rest of my life because it is so easy for me.
That, and I can feel my heart working less. Blood pressure is down. Off medicine. I feel 30 years younger. And THAT is why I will continue. Because using it makes me feel great.
A calorie is a measure of the amount of energy and it is always the same. It has always been defined in this manner. Amino acids, carbohydrates and fats are all metabolized using different pathways, and yes, there will be different efficiencies for each. There is a difference, however, between a calorie, and the efficiencies of that calorie.
This is the first post from you with which I agree.
You said that well.
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