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To: RevelationDavid
It has become openly and aggressively pro Catholic.

???

I'm a Catholic. You must be reading some other board called "Freerepublic", and just posted to this one by mistake. I can point you to an actual pro-Catholic board if you like.

Catholicism is heresy.

Right back atcha, but ... then what? Now that we've called each other heretics, we've pretty much made it clear that we have nothing to say to each other and nothing to learn from each other.

Maybe you'd be happier in a country with a Protestant state church, where Catholics have to shut up or go to prison?

84 posted on 08/29/2019 5:19:36 AM PDT by Campion ((marine dad))
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To: Campion
". . . . a Protestant state church, where Catholics have to shut up or go to prison?"

A bit over a hundred year ago in numerous US cities Protestants were burning the homes of Catholics, Catholic churches, Catholic convents, Catholic orphanages, Catholic monasteries, and hanging Catholics from lamp posts.

Apparently quite a few Protestants look back on that as, "the good old days".

92 posted on 08/29/2019 5:39:12 AM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: Campion
Maybe you'd be happier in a country with a Protestant state church, where Catholics have to shut up or go to prison?

Is that what it would be if this were a Catholic country?

Because your post sure sounded like a lot of projecting to me.

I never read anything any where on FR that indicated a non-Catholic would even think of imposing that on Catholics.

OTOH, there have been more than one Catholic who have openly wished for a return to the Inquisition.

99 posted on 08/29/2019 5:56:34 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: Campion
Maybe you'd be happier in a country with a Protestant state church, where Catholics have to shut up or go to prison?

You mean a small sect like the KKK, or worldwide church, in which obedience to its head required:

Secular authorities, whatever office they may hold, shall be admonished and induced and if necessary compelled by ecclesiastical censure,...to exterminate in the territories subject to their jurisdiction all heretics pointed out by the Church ;

But if a temporal ruler, after having been requested and admonished by the Church, should neglect to cleanse his territory of this heretical foulness, let him be excommunicated..that he may declare the ruler’s vassals absolved from their allegiance and may offer the territory to be ruled lay Catholics, who on the extermination of the heretics may possess it without hindrance Canons of the Ecumenical Fourth Lateran Council (canon 3), 1215: http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/basis/lateran4.asp

The head of state or ruler must, within ten days after the accusation, complete the following tasks: the destruction of the houses, the imposition of the fines, the consigning and dividing-up of the valuables that have been found or seized , all of which have already been described in this decree. He must obtain all fines in coin within three months, and divide them up in the manner to be set forth hereafter, and convict of crime those who cannot pay, and hold them in prison until they can ....

The head of state or ruler must divide up all the property of the heretics that is seized or discovered by the aforesaid officials , and the fines exacted from these heretics, in the form and manner following: one-third shall go to the government of the state or district. The second as a reward of the industry of the office shall go to the officials who handled this particular case. The third shall be deposited in some secure place to be kept by the aforesaid Diocesan bishop and inquisitors,and spent as they shall think fit to promote the faith and extirpate{11} heretics, this policy prevailing in spite of any statute that has been or shall be enacted against this dividing-up of the heretics' property . - Pope Innocent IV, Ad extirpanda :

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"The Church has the right,..to admonish or warn its members, ecclesiastical or lay, who have not conformed to its laws and also, if needful to punish them by physical means, that is, coercive jurisdiction." - Catholic encyclopedia, Jurisdiction (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/08567a.htm)

Innocent’s Bull prescribes that captured heretics, being "murderers of souls as well as robbers of God’s sacraments and of the Christian faith, . . . are to be coerced – as are thieves and bandits – into confessing their errors and accusing others, although one must stop short of danger to life or limb." — Bull Ad Extirpanda (Bullarium Romanorum Pontificum, vol. 3 [Turin: Franco, Fory & Dalmazzo, 1858], Lex 25, p. 556a.) (http://www.rtforum.org/lt/lt119.html)

Pope Pius IX, The Syllabus (of Errors): "[It is error to believe that] The (Catholic) Church has not the power of using force, nor has she any temporal power, direct or indirect." Section V, Errors Concerning the Church and Her Rights, #24. (http://www.ewtn.com/library/PAPALDOC/P9SYLL.HTM)

For many RCs, these were the "good ol' days." Which unscriptural use of the sword of men early Prots had to unlearn.

155 posted on 08/29/2019 9:30:25 AM PDT by daniel1212 ( Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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