[Boomer]

You are right that both parties do it. You are wrong about your example. Obama was born in the US, so a natural born citizen.

We have yet to see a (not) forged birth certificate. I'm 99% certain he was born in Kenya.

[Allen In Texas Hill Country]

In any case never ever, ever forget that the lady that controlled access to the records vault in Hawaii that supposedly has Obama’s original birth certificate was mysteriously killed in a helicopter crash. All passengers except her survived. Hope my memory is correct.