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To: PraiseTheLord
Okay, I read advertising guy's posts on the subject, and I have to say, with all due respect. Not impressed.

His basic premise, that Epstein knew he would be arrested the minute he touched US soil is ridiculous on its face.

What was different about this time he touched US soil that wasn't true in all the years he touched US soil between his first arrest and this one? What new information did he have?

No, he thought he beat the rap once and he would continue to beat it. That his money and his connections would protect him.

So right off the bat, I call shenanigans on advertising guy's theory.

I'm also shocked that anybody would say that Tony Rodham (I don't accuse him or you of this one) was kept on ice for months to pull the old switcheroo with Epstein. I'm not convinced by the ear flaps, eye lids, eyebrows, lip line, or any other 'evidence' that the dead guy pic isn't Epstein.

You understand how many people, including Epstein's own visitors, attornies, jail personnel, paramedic staff, medical staff would have to be in on the plot to pull off fake Epstein.

The derps have no motive to whisk Epstein away with a switcheroo. They only wanted him dead. The only ones with motive would be 'white hats', in order to protect him as a vital witness.

So the switch would have to be designed to fool ALL of Epstein's people. People that know him, as well as miscellaneous standers-by. That's a lot of people who couldn't all possibly be in on the scheme.

Oh, and as for the color of jumpsuit he was wearing on the gurney. Do you know what color jumpsuit they wear in the Prison he was housed in? I don't.

But orange is a common jumpsuit color (i.e. Orange is the New Black).

Also, at least where I come from, they would (and most likely did) use different colored jumpsuits to designate different classifications of prisoner.

Here's how we did it.

Red - general pop/unsentenced.

Blue - inmate worker.

Green - 'Timers'/serving County time.

Yellow - Hi power/Hi security.

I don't know what system they used in MCC, but I would hazard a guess that they did have a system and different colored jumpsuits.

Anyway, you can make no conclusions about the color of his jumpsuit unless you know what he was SUPPOSED to be wearing while in custody.

Also, as a personal anecdote, I have personally dressed a naked or chonie-clad inmate in a jumpsuit for transportation to the hospital, not that that's what happened. But possible. So take that into account.

But I will give you this. ANYTHING is always possible. ALWAYS.

Some possibilities, though, are so unlikely as to be virtually impossible to the point of ridiculous.

This, in my opinion, is one of those things.

And, like the JFKjr is alive thing, is also embarrassing. I hate for us all to be tarred with that brush. Theories like this take on a life of their own and pretty soon we, who are already branded kooks, become even bigger kooks.

I hope I don't offend. I don't usually like to step on people's theories, me being a proponent of the diversity of ideas and discussion.

So that's the opinion of Bagster, who also gets to participate in the marketplace of ideas.


364 posted on 08/21/2019 2:14:46 AM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: bagster
No, he thought he beat the rap once and he would continue to beat it. That his money and his connections would protect him

WINNER !

Plus the dirt he had on everyone...
380 posted on 08/21/2019 6:26:21 AM PDT by stylin19a (2016 - Best.Election.Of.All.Times.Ever.In.The.History.Of.Ever)
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To: bagster

I was not 100% convinced but now I am, thanks for your thoughts on the matter.


494 posted on 08/21/2019 1:29:14 PM PDT by little jeremiah (When we do not punish evildoers we are ripping the foundations of justice from future generations.)
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To: bagster; PraiseTheLord
Some possibilities, though, are so unlikely as to be virtually impossible to the point of ridiculous. This, in my opinion, is one of those things. And, like the JFKjr is alive thing, is also embarrassing. I hate for us all to be tarred with that brush.

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Interesting take, Oracle, especially since it contains "primary source" knowledge of prison conditions.

And it is ALWAYS a noble deed to skewer the misinformation before it spreads and discredits the real stuff.

I still have some questions:

1) Why were so many factors (so many mistakes) brought together, just on the "hope" that Epstein would take the window of opportunity to pull off an improbable suicide scenario?

2) Who and why was the convenient photo taken and leaked, if not as part of a cover story?

3) You are 100% right to dismiss the Rodham garbage. This reeks of disinformation. But disinformation would be par for the course in an intricate plot to either murder or FAKE MURDER Epstein. So exposing clouds of disinfo, IF ANYTHING, backs up the story that the whole thing was staged.

4) The CIA, whose fingerprints are starting to show up all over this mess, could have pulled off an elaborate plot--either murder or FAKE murder.

643 posted on 08/21/2019 10:13:54 PM PDT by Disestablishmentarian
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