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Towns deploy tagged-shark alert system (Massachusetts)
Wicked local Cape Cod ^ | August 9, 2019 | Ryan Fitzgerald

Posted on 08/10/2019 1:16:26 PM PDT by Capt. Tom

WELLFLEET -- An acoustic receiver, attached to a buoy, that uses email to alert officials and lifeguards to the presence of a tagged white shark is in place in the waters off Wellfleet’s Newcomb Hollow Beach and will soon be installed off Nauset Beach in Orleans and Head of the Meadow in Truro, according to shark researcher and scientist Greg Skomal, of the state Division of Marine Fisheries. The device can detect a tagged shark if it swims within 100 to 200 meters of the buoy, he said, but issues no alert when non-tagged sharks, population unknown, swim by, meaning that its safety implications are limited.(snip)

The citizen group Cape Cod Ocean Community had pushed for a Clever Buoy shark detection pilot program this summer, but none of the towns wanted to move forward with it. The Clever Buoy has the ability to identify any shark, tagged or not, that swims within its range, the manufacturer says.(snip).

Meanwhile, the Outer Cape towns and the Seashore are expecting the consultant Woods Hole Research Group to file its white shark mitigation report in mid-September. The WHG is looking at a wide range of deterrent options the towns might consider for future use.

(Excerpt) Read more at capecod.wickedlocal.com ...


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To: rlmorel

CHUCKLE.

Fwiw, I’ve been “crazed over sharks” since I was a young boy & have studied them & their behavior for >60 years. = My late mother used to tell people that I was like having a son who has, “- - - - a passion for rats & mice”.

I’ve talked over the years with several “shark attack victims”, who survived an “exploratory bite” & had the scars to prove it.
(One tall/slim/muscular 36YO surfer that I talked to for hours in 1983 in Long Beach, CA had a “bite radius scar” of 16.5 inches on his thorax. = BIG White “had a bite & “departed the scene, without actually feeding”.)

Yours, TMN78247


41 posted on 08/11/2019 4:01:10 PM PDT by TMN78247 ("VICTORY or DEATH", William Barrett Travis, LtCol, comdt., Fortress of the Alamo, Bejar, 1836)
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To: TMN78247

Holy smokes.


42 posted on 08/11/2019 4:56:24 PM PDT by rlmorel (Trump to China: This Capitalist Will Not Sell You the Rope with Which You Will Hang Us.)
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To: Capt. Tom

Yep, not a good solution. Hard to think of a good solution though. Unless we start to install shark nets round beaches, don’t even know if that’s possible. But then we’d have people outraged at other fish getting stuck I suppose.


43 posted on 08/12/2019 5:38:56 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: 1Old Pro
Hard to think of a good solution though. Unless we start to install shark nets round beaches, don’t even know if that’s possible.

We had the solution when the seals had a bounty on them and their numbers were insignificant and when white sharks were killed for their trophy jaw$ and meat, and were greatly reduced in numbers

Now with Federal protection of both species the problem of interactions with people in the ocean cant be solved, unless people don't want to go into the ocean above their knees.

So many determined groups with conflicting agendas have a say in the process makes it a situation where solutions are impossible.

Controversial expensive mitigating ideas are the next step.

You should go to some of the town meetings to observe the heated discussions. -Tom

44 posted on 08/12/2019 7:18:29 AM PDT by Capt. Tom
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To: Vaquero

Fwiw, that Garand that “Chief Brody” used in the movie was really owned by the late Roy Scheider, who bought it from the CMP.

Yours, TMN78247


45 posted on 08/12/2019 7:24:06 AM PDT by TMN78247 ("VICTORY or DEATH", William Barrett Travis, LtCol, comdt., Fortress of the Alamo, Bejar, 1836)
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To: TMN78247

Back when he bought it, the CMP was called the DCM. I got my Garand from them for $125 back in 1981. Good deal. Great shooter.


46 posted on 08/12/2019 7:58:37 AM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Capt. Tom

too bad, just terrible.


47 posted on 08/12/2019 8:03:28 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Vaquero

OK. = The publication that I read said: CMP.

I just thought that it was “interesting” that Mr. Scheider used his OWN Garand in the movie.

Btw, my uncle bought a “in MINT condition”/rebuilt at SAAD, Remington Model of 1917 Rifle (of WWI fame) for I think, like 10 bucks from DCM “back then” & got his deer each year with it for about 2 decades, until his own passing.
(Now his son hunts with it.)

DCM also sold .30 caliber M1/M2 carbines for LESS than 20 bucks each in the 1950s-60s.
(Of course 20 bucks was a “considerable amount” of money back then. = INFLATION.)

IF I remember correctly, DCM sales were “one to a customer”, unlike the 8 rifles per year that CMP will sell you in 2019.

Yours, TMN78247


48 posted on 08/12/2019 8:15:26 AM PDT by TMN78247 ("VICTORY or DEATH", William Barrett Travis, LtCol, comdt., Fortress of the Alamo, Bejar, 1836)
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To: Vaquero

OK. = The publication that I read said: CMP.

I just thought that it was “interesting” that Mr. Scheider used his OWN Garand in the movie.

Btw, my uncle bought a Remington Model of 1917 Rifle (of WWI fame) for I think, like 10 bucks from DCM “back then” & got his deer each year with it for about 2 decades, until his own passing.
(Now his son hunts with it.)

DCM also sold .30 caliber M1/M2 carbines for LESS than 20 bucks each in the 1950s-60s.
(Of course 20 bucks was a “considerable amount” of money back then. = INFLATION.)

IF I remember correctly, DCM sales were “one to a customer”, unlike the 8 rifles per year that CMP will sell you in 2019.

Yours, TMN78247


49 posted on 08/12/2019 8:27:01 AM PDT by TMN78247 ("VICTORY or DEATH", William Barrett Travis, LtCol, comdt., Fortress of the Alamo, Bejar, 1836)
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To: 1Old Pro; Makana
Yesterday a boat returning from P-Town to Plymouth in the Bay, encounters a large white shark about 8 miles from P- Town

The woman onboard estimated it was as long as the 20 foot boat, but that would be very unusual. It certainly was one of he larger whites and may be headed to the seals at Manomet Point Plymouth. Who knows?

In Plymouth in 2014, 2 women side by side in separate kayaks watching seals were attacked by a large white shark and survived.-Tom

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hC3VTgIPoGU

50 posted on 08/12/2019 1:32:09 PM PDT by Capt. Tom
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To: Capt. Tom

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zf8pcYdb0ks


51 posted on 08/12/2019 1:38:56 PM PDT by Capt. Tom
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To: Capt. Tom

Maybe all the whale watching boats out of Ptown should rename to shark watching.


52 posted on 08/12/2019 1:41:00 PM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Capt. Tom; 1Old Pro; Makana; All

I am having trouble posting the link. -Tom


53 posted on 08/12/2019 1:42:35 PM PDT by Capt. Tom
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To: Capt. Tom; Makana; TMN78247; rlmorel; 1Old Pro; Roccus; All
Latest report from the Atlantic White Shark Conservancy

The field season is in full swing!
To date, 9 research trips have been conducted (5 along the Outer Cape and 4 in Cape Cod Bay). Dr. Greg Skomal of the MA Division of Marine Fisheries, working with the Atlantic White Shark Conservancy, has tagged 19 white sharks (16 off the Outer Cape and 3 in Cape Cod Bay) ranging in size from 8 – 12.5 ft, a new record for this point in the season!

54 posted on 08/12/2019 2:35:00 PM PDT by Capt. Tom
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To: Capt. Tom

Sounds like he is getting the survey tagging job done.

Personally, I like the Whites & think that that area needs to put up barriers to keep the bathers away from the sharks.
(That technique worked fine in the immediate aftermath of “The 12 Days of Terror” in NJ, so I cannot see a reason that it won’t work in the 21 century.)

Yours, Tmn78247


55 posted on 08/12/2019 3:24:19 PM PDT by TMN78247 ("VICTORY or DEATH", William Barrett Travis, LtCol, comdt., Fortress of the Alamo, Bejar, 1836)
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To: TMN78247; Makana; strider44
refer to my post #47

Well that didn't take long.

PLYMOUTH (CBS) – Beaches in Plymouth had to be closed Monday after a shark sighting. The Plymouth harbormaster tweeted at 3:30 p.m. that a fisherman was reeling in a catch just east of Brown’s Bank when the great white breached and took the fish off the line.

Plymouth_Harbor crew received a report of a confirmed White shark sighting just East of Brown's Bank in Plymouth. Fishermen was reeling in a fish and the shark breached taking the fish off the line. Plymouth Beachs are flying red flags and are closed swimming.
3:31 PM - Aug 12, 2019

Red flags went up on the beaches to advise swimmers to stay out of the water.

On Friday, boaters on the way to Plymouth from Provincetown had a close encounter with a shark about eight miles off shore.

56 posted on 08/12/2019 5:13:13 PM PDT by Capt. Tom
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To: Capt. Tom

refer to my #50 post- Tom


57 posted on 08/12/2019 5:45:44 PM PDT by Capt. Tom
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To: Capt. Tom

A snack for a White. OR a really big fish (like a large tuna) on the fisherman’s line.

I cannot imagine a White of much size being interested in a regular sized fish, especially since generally only the youngsters are fish-eaters.

Note: A couple of years ago, a friend of mine from Rockport, TX was fighting an about 50-60# tarpon on a 30# class IGFA rod/reel, when a VERY massive Tiger took the tarpon, hooked herself & Bobby Wright had “a H of a fight”, till the hook straightened out. = Bobbby said that, “It got right near ‘sporty’, as long as it lasted”.
(FUNNY THING though, that Tiger is still out there & she is now the size of a Buick. = CHUCKLE.)

Yours, TMN78247


58 posted on 08/12/2019 6:15:23 PM PDT by TMN78247 ("VICTORY or DEATH", William Barrett Travis, LtCol, comdt., Fortress of the Alamo, Bejar, 1836)
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To: TMN78247; Roccus
A snack for a White. OR a really big fish (like a large tuna) on the fisherman’s line.
I cannot imagine a White of much size being interested in a regular sized fish, especially since generally only the youngsters are fish-eaters.

I would bet it was a whtie around 8-10 feet long and the fish was a striper.

We have had miles of menhaden schools from Boston South to Plymouth with big stripers under certain Schools.

They send down a menhaden with a 2/0 treble hook thru its nose down into the school, and if the bass are there a hookup is almost guaranteed.- Tom

59 posted on 08/12/2019 7:06:50 PM PDT by Capt. Tom
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To: Capt. Tom

YEP. - Just as I suspected: a “middle-schooler”.
(Whites are about 3 feet long at birth, as I’m sure that you know.)

I suspect a nice-sized striper would be a nice lunch for such a youngster.

Fwiw, I got a 51” Striper in the Chesapeake a few years ago off a party boat on a good-sized Norfolk Spot, fished under a balloon.
(That was right exciting, though I had to set her free once she was measured. = Outside the slot limit.)

At that time, a fisherman could take/register ONE “trophy rock” per year.

I received a nice certificate for my BIG catch & release “cow rock” from the Governor’s office.
(I framed/hung the certificate, given that I caught her on a 7’ popping rod with a casting reel loaded with 17# test mono.)

Fwiw, I wouldn’t have killed a cow, full of eggs, in any case & she had a belly-full. = I’m not that hard up for charbroiled rockfish.

Yours, TMN78247


60 posted on 08/12/2019 7:37:33 PM PDT by TMN78247 ("VICTORY or DEATH", William Barrett Travis, LtCol, comdt., Fortress of the Alamo, Bejar, 1836)
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