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The Latest Proposal To Come Up In Tennessee’s Abortion Debate: A Complete Ban After Conception
Nashville Public Radio ^ | AUG 5, 2019 | Sergio Martínez-Beltrán

Posted on 08/07/2019 8:54:53 AM PDT by Morgana

Tennessee state senators are expected to consider a proposal that would ban abortions from the time a woman learns she is pregnant.

It arises from the discussion of the so-called "fetal heartbeat bill" that has divided state lawmakers. The idea of the new legislation is to challenge abortion rights by taking an even more restrictive approach.

The key word in next week's debate will be "viability" — a concept that for decades has been at the center of abortion laws. According to the courts, that’s the capability of a fetus to live outside the mother’s womb, generally thought to happen around the 24th week.

The heartbeat bill (SB 1236/ HB 77) proposed earlier this year tried to block abortions once a heartbeat could be detected, usually around six weeks. It passed the House but ground to a halt in the Senate. Opposition came from abortion rights groups — and from some on the other side of the debate who oppose abortion.

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: abortion; prolife; tennessee
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1 posted on 08/07/2019 8:54:53 AM PDT by Morgana
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To: Morgana
A Complete Ban After Conception

As opposed to a complete ban before conception?

Why not just say "complete ban on abortion?"

2 posted on 08/07/2019 9:10:12 AM PDT by Yo-Yo ( is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Yo-Yo

I certainly have no problem with abortions pre-conception. The left can go wild with that.


3 posted on 08/07/2019 9:11:37 AM PDT by C210N (You can vote your way into Socialism; but, you have to shoot your way out of it.)
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To: Morgana
If you read he article --- Dave Fowler is making a good point. What is the relevance of"heartbeat"?

It's an emotional point of bonding, to be sure, when you see (or hear) that pulsing red signal of a baby's cardiac activity, present even in the embryonic child.

But the reality is, the baby is alive and growing and biologically splendid even before there is cardiac activity. The event of fertilization itself means the deed is done! Thanks be to God: a new human lives: through gestation and birth, through maturity and death, and unto eternity: a human being to the glory of God.

Even Eve, though a sinner, could see this with the first baby ever born:

"I have gotten a man, with the help of the Lord." (Gen 4:1)

4 posted on 08/07/2019 9:12:50 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (A baby is God's opinion that life should go on.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I agree with you. We both know that life happens at conception, but the point is trying to back the left into a corner, admitting there is a life in that womb.

To answer your question, the heartbeat is a tangible, definite point in development that translates as a universally recognized sign of life.

Even the most pro-abortion leftists will tell you that END of life is when the heart stops beating. The idea is to say that WHENEVER the heart is beating, it shows life.


5 posted on 08/07/2019 9:52:42 AM PDT by HeadOn (Love God. Lead your family. Be a man.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

quote: The event of fertilization itself means the deed is done!

No. The fertilized egg (a cluster of rapidly dividing cells) has to implant in the uterine lining, or in another healthy body tissue, and grow there, or no significant development can occur—no source of nourishment and waste removal for the growing embryo otherwise, and the fertilized egg will just run out of stored energy and start to disintegrate and pass out of the uterus and be discarded in the environment where other uterine fluids and shed cells go. That’s one reason some believe that IUD’s, which create an environment hostile to uterine implantation, are a form of abortion.


6 posted on 08/07/2019 10:09:43 AM PDT by Notthemomma
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To: Notthemomma
"quote: The event of fertilization itself means the deed is done!...
No. The fertilized egg (a cluster of rapidly dividing cells) has to implant in the uterine lining...

I think we're actually in agreement here. When I said "the deed is done!" I didn't mean that the continued career of the newly-started son or daughter is now a cinch. I just meant that human life has begun-- or, if you prefer, it has been "passed on" to a another generation.

Day One in the life of anyone, is the day that fertilization occurred.

After that, the new small being has to implant on some suitably flexible, vascular organ (usually the uterus) where it can nidate ("nestle in") and get busy developing its own next set of tissues, organs, and systems.

I am among the many who would argue that an IUD is an abortifacient, because it kills the new human at this stage by interfering with implantation. As well, hormonal contraceptives which can cause almost imperceptible embryonic loss by driving down the necessary level of progesterone --- it's actually more complicated than that --- are also on a moral level with abortion.

7 posted on 08/07/2019 11:53:45 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (A baby is God's opinion that life should go on.)
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