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To: big'ol_freeper

The SCOTUS needs to strike down many of these red flag laws. What other constitutional right can a citizen be denied without due process?

Also some states shift the burden of proof to the citizen to show he is not a danger to others. Also there are sometimes differing standards of proof to have your property (ie your guns) restored to you and that can take a lot of time and legal fees.

Also there is no penalty for knowingly filing a false report about someone in several states with these laws. Got a psycho ex girlfriend? Anybody have a grudge against you? They can knowingly file a false report about you, have the cops come kick in your door (maybe shoot you and/or your dog), take your property, and you then have to spend a lot of time and effort to get it back. And no consequences for them even if they did this with malice.

Outrageous violation of citizen’s constitutional rights.


23 posted on 08/07/2019 6:45:49 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: FLT-bird

Hoping for John Roberts to do the right thing?

All I can say is Obamacare.


29 posted on 08/07/2019 6:53:55 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: FLT-bird

I believe you are correct


31 posted on 08/07/2019 6:56:05 AM PDT by big'ol_freeper (If your opponent is of choleric temper, irritate him. ~ Sun Tzu)
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To: FLT-bird

Timothy McVeigh did not use his gun.

168 dead and 680 wounded.

The 9/11 attack had no guns involved.

There are many many other examples.

Red Flag Laws are stupid.

What would really help is the creation of a process by which a family member, employer or close friend can get help from experts in mental illness (or problems) without any action by law enforcement until such time as the mental health facility has determined that legal action is required.


36 posted on 08/07/2019 6:59:56 AM PDT by old curmudgeon (There is no situation so terrible, so disgraceful, that the federal government can not make worse)
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To: FLT-bird

“The SCOTUS needs to strike down many of these red flag laws.”

SCOTUS isn’t going to do anything.


49 posted on 08/07/2019 7:25:56 AM PDT by JamesP81 (The Democrat Party is a criminal organization.)
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